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Is ID a right wing conspiracy?

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Modulous
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08-03-2005 4:32 AM 		Reply to: Message 20 by DominionSeraph
08-03-2005 4:17 AM

Re: What's wrong with the Wedge doc?
ID isn't capable of performing the verb, "to conspire." Last time I checked, it's a concept -- not a person
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Indeed, it is claimed to be a conspiracy, not a conspirator.
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08-03-2005 5:35 AM 		Reply to: Message 23 by DominionSeraph
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Re: What's wrong with the Wedge doc?
Congratulations you have listed one definition of a conspiracy. Other definitions include:
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An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act
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A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design
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A conspiracy as you have pointed out is also the term used for a group of conspirators who are engaging in a conspiracy.
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What is a conspirator?
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One that engages in a conspiracy.
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08-03-2005 6:22 AM 		Reply to: Message 25 by DominionSeraph
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Re: What's wrong with the Wedge doc?
The agreement would be for people to perform together to place ID in schools. It would not be an agreement for people to ID, as that's nonsensical.
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Indeed it would.
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ID can't act.
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Of course it can't. However, one can say "Intelligent Design represents the coming together of factions within the right wing to engage in a subversive act"
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If you want to put into your own terms: ID is the common name for the Intelligent Design movement...a group of 'conspirators'. Thus ID is a conspiracy.
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Teleology is not a conspiracy, ID is (or is alleged to be).
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