buzsaw writes:
onifre writes:
There is no outside of spacetime either, I didn't mean to lead you to that opinion.
You haven't led me to that opinion. That was the deduction which your statements conveyed.
no, you misunderstand what onifre meant by "finite". He meant finite as in "had a beginning", not as in "it has an edge".
If the universe
just is and
just was, having existed under different
space and time dimensions, the Buzsaw unbounded space eternal universe hypothesis is beginning to look more
scientific. I like that.
the universe IS - I'm not sure about the "just" part. It has been since approximately 13.7 billion years ago.
"before" and "outside" are words that don't work so very well when you attempt to apply them to the universe.
I could be wrong, but from what I understand the agreement is that now it's here it could be eternal, and now it's here it is unbounded and infinite in extent and has been for all of it's existence.