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cavediver
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Message 38 of 48 (524180)
09-14-2009 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Phage0070
09-14-2009 5:07 PM


Were you to be developing a new field of mathematics then you would apply the scientific method.
Nonsense. The principle tool is logical deduction. Once enough of the base framework is developed, it is possible to use a process similar to the scientific method to launch deeper into the field, introducing tentativity and uncertainty. This is often the tactic used by mathematical physicists such as myself, and we are constantly criticised for it Furthermore, any part of the body of work so developed is considered conjecture until it is formally connected with the foundations of the field.
Possible example: the relationship between Donaldson Theory and Seiberg-Witten Theory.
Mathematics can certainly appear scientific at times, but to claim that Mathematics is a science in the modern understanding of the word is simply wrong. In fact, I know several mathematicians who would claim that tentativity is the antithesis of mathematics.

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cavediver
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Message 39 of 48 (524181)
09-14-2009 6:00 PM
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09-14-2009 5:54 PM


Does it eventually give you the correct answer in reality? If so, the theory is functioning correctly. If it never correlates to reality at some point then nobody would care.
And you're trying to comment on mathematics with this attitude enough said...

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cavediver
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Message 42 of 48 (524189)
09-14-2009 7:02 PM
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09-14-2009 6:21 PM


Are you implying that the scientific method does not use logical deduction?
I am not implying this, nor its negative. It is irrelevant to our discussion.
Mathematics is based on observation of reality, and while it is awfully fun to come up with new equations and such...
Oh dear... You're appreciation of what constitutes mathematics is lacking in the extreme. It is no wonder you make the above claims. Don't wory, ignorance is rarely fatal and generally curable
But I have a feeling that this is hopelessly off-topic, so maybe time for a new thread?
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