I think God is self-evident through design, but you have to look into it. I've heard severeal creationi scientist-lectures that go into the details of specific organisms, and it is easily proven that the level of design far exceeds human design.
I think deductive logic can show easily that if poor design requires a designer, very brilliant design requires a designer.
The thing is, even if you can only find one amazing design, that in itself becomes a complete anomoly, but every organism, in it's function, is excellent. It simply shouldn't be. There should only be at best, one very poor design for "flight", for example, otherwise all those other designs are not explained, just explained away as coincidence. But it is not logical to handwave awat the clearly incredible. We're talking about animated matter here. That in itself is fu##ing incredible beyond all words. Even atheists express a kind of awe at nature, as it is wonderfully brilliant.
But it depends on
which God. If it's Theism, or Deism, not biblical Tri-une Theism, then you have the problem of evil to deal with.
But I think designs are inherently brilliant, even the nasty ones are still brilliant designs despite being grotesque because they do their job excellently.
So it gets complicated. The two major philosophical problems are death and suffering and design.
Designists have to answer for the former, evolutionists have to answer for the latter.
The bible answers the problem of evil and suffering, theologically. Evolution doesn't deal with design, it just states that designs come about on their own somehow. When I state, on there own somehow, it's not that I don't understand the mechanisms behind the ToE, it's that the problem of design just doesn't go away and will always be more powerful as an explanation of amazing design because design is factual, you can actually point at it, rather than argue it.
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