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Author Topic:   What is your best arguments against a world wide flood.
Quetzal
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Message 44 of 47 (37785)
04-24-2003 4:01 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by booboocruise
04-23-2003 8:07 PM


Re: She sells seashells
Okay, since we are in fact talking about whale skeletons or remnants in Michigan and not the North Sea (you threw me there for a minute), the situation is becoming somewhat clearer.
There HAVE been bits of whale found in odd places in Michigan. Remains of a finback whale (Balaenoptera), a sperm whale (Physeter), and a right whale (Balaena). The first specimen was found back in the 1860's, and other bits have been found since. However, the remnants are really just pieces (a vertebra in one place, a couple of ribs in another, another rib somewhere else). In addition, whale teeth occasionally turn up on Michigan's beaches. Of course, no actual skeleton was found - just a very few random bones. Carbon 14 dating of samples by C.R. Harington produced ages that show relatively recent deposition: the sperm whale was less than 190 years old, the finback whale was 790 - 650 years old, and the right whale was dated as being between 810 and 690 years old.
I'd say this tends to show the "fossil whales" in Michigan, despite creationist claims to the contrary, are relatively recent. How they got there, of course, is another story - and one that has not been effectively answered (there are a bunch of theories, including human transport, Champlain Sea, post-glacial flooding, etc).
Reference (since evolutionists never cite references, according to boobooo, please ignore the following):
Harington, C.R., "Marine Mammals of the Champlain Sea, and the Problem of Whales in Michigan", in: Gadd, N.R., ed., 1988, "The Late Quaternary Development of the Champlain Sea Basin", Geological Association of Canada, Special Paper 35, p. 225-240.
Holman, J. A. (1995) "Ancient Life of the Great Lakes Basin" University of Michigan Press

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Quetzal
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Message 45 of 47 (37815)
04-24-2003 8:33 AM
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04-24-2003 4:01 AM


Re: She sells seashells
It's certainly too late to edit the above, but I would like to add a sentence that I neglected: none (repeat NOT ONE) of these anomalous finds was correlated with ANY other marine deposits. No shells, no fish bones, no nothing. Which of course, is why they're so interesting and enigmatic - but not diagnostic of anything resembling a global flood.

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