Apes vs. Man What are your thoughts??

If you don`t mind me asking Punisher what are your opinions about ToE (theory of evolution), YEC (young Earth creationism) and such?(sorry if you were already familiar with the contractions ToE and YEC, thought I had better define them just in case.)

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Originally posted by schrafinator:
The ancestry of the people carrying this HIV-resisting mutation is quite fascinating; they very strongly tend to come from countries which were affected by Bubonic Plague. Most of the world's population lacks this mutation.

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Not sure if this is correct but i remember hearing something about it being carried by 1% of caucasians.....

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Originally posted by Punisher:
1)Do you think a chicken and a pig are the same kind? Do you think an ape and a human are the same kind? What criterion would you use?

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2)Perhaps we should define "kind" as those species which can reproduce together. I would say that a dog 'kind' and a cat 'kind' are two different 'kinds' because they cannot produce offspring together. Would you agree? So, apes and humans are different kinds. As stated earlier, although we see great variety within a 'kind' of species, there is no evidence to suggest that there is an evoulution to a different 'kind'.

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1)Lets assume for a moment that "kind" is a higher level of taxonomical differentiation than species (otherwise why bother with it)....But as all life extant evolved from those "created kinds" carried on the ark (stepping inside the YEC position) presumably "kind" is a lower order difference than between birds and mammals....So chickens pigs no... humans chimps yes (untill the limits of what defines a "kind" are more clearly defined).....2)Here you are defining "kind" as roughly equivalent to species.....Given the vagaries of this definition and its similarity to species shouldn`t we forget about "kind" and use species instead.....

Don`t take this the wrong way but why not take this bible study to a new thread......After all this thread is on the subject of mans (putative?) evolution from a common ancestor of the modern apes.....