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Author Topic:   When the flood waters receded, where did they go ?
Andor
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Message 10 of 131 (12902)
07-06-2002 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Tranquility Base
07-04-2002 8:54 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
It is evident from mainstream science that most of the land surface of the earth (if not all of it) has been underwater!

Possibly. But not all at the same time!
TB, The Sierra de Guadarrama (50Km NW Madrid), is of Precambrian and Cambrian materials uplifted in the Hercynian orogeny. Since then, it has never again been covered by sea waters. It was fully eroded and lifted again in the Alpine orogeny. Now it is a crystalline mass, with its higher peak 2.400m. (Mt. Penalara): Gneiss, slate, quartzite, and intrusive granitic plutons.
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The geological column on land is primarily marine!

All the perforations NW Madrid to the crystalline block, give the same result: unconsolidated argillaceous material, of continental origin, derived from erosion of Sierra de Guadarrama mountains.

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Andor
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Message 85 of 131 (13245)
07-10-2002 11:01 AM
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07-10-2002 10:31 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Tranquility Base:

Layering under rapid flow. I have posted refs from several mainstream texts such as Pettijohn and Blatt et al deomsntrating that mainstreamers admit neat layering under rapid flow. One quote even states 'many layers' were generated in 'hours, minutes and seconds'.

And the particle size of the deposit was?
I think that fine particles can only deposit when the flow slows down.
Chalk, for example, only can deposit in very quite water, and very very slowly.
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Andor
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Message 101 of 131 (13354)
07-11-2002 10:13 AM
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07-10-2002 1:10 PM


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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
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Chalk is a very fine grained and almost pure limestone, composed of coccoliths: skeletal elements of planktonic foraminifera.
The mean size of a coccolith is about 100 microns, and it has been estimated that it could take 100.000 years to form 1 meter of chalk. Now consider the 500 meters of Dover cliffs.
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Andor
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Message 105 of 131 (13387)
07-11-2002 9:59 PM
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07-11-2002 1:04 PM


I must rectify my previous post. Coccolitophores are not foraminifera, but golden-brown, single-celled algae (Prymnesiophyta).
Actually the intention of my first post was only to emphasize that a very fine grained sediment need a very slow and quite water to deposit, hardly compatible with the Flood.
But now I'm going to quote D.R. Prothero (Bringing fossils to life):
"...These algae form spherical cells about 15 to 100 microns in diameter, enclosed in a ball of calcareous plates called coccoliths, which are about 2 to 25 microns in diameter. Are so tiny that can fit into the pores of the foraminifera...
...Are also subject to significant post-morten transport, since they sink in the water column at a rate of only about 1 to 2 microns per second. At this rate, an individual coccolith would take 50 to 150 years to reach the bottom at 5000 m...However most coccoliths sink inside fecal pellets of zooplankton, and sinks to 5000 m in 22 to 100 days, while protecting the coccoliths from dissolution..."

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Andor
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Message 107 of 131 (13407)
07-12-2002 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by TrueCreation
07-11-2002 11:15 PM


TC, may be I copied wrongly the data, I was almost slept. I can't consult the book right now, that would have to wait till this night (local time
). The platelets are biosinthesized inside the cell and then extruded. There are a few little platelets surrounding the cell. http://www.marbot.gu.se/SSS/others/XEmiliania_huxleyi.htm
There is a lot of writing between the two selected paragraphs because I wanted only to correlate the little size and weight and the corresponding minimal rate of sinking.
There is a lot of information in these two places:
http://www.soes.soton.ac.uk/staff/tt/
http://geology.er.usgs.gov/paleo/nannos.shtml
I like you to visit also this two pages about chalk:
http://csmres.jmu.edu/geollab/Fichter/SedRx/Rocks/chalk1.html
And this from "Answers in Genesis", which seems to accept interesting geological data:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/tj/docs/v8n1_chalk.asp
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