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Message 10 of 34 (113334)
06-07-2004 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jerry
06-07-2004 6:48 AM


Jerry writes:
why it was decided that the prebig bang singularity was a speck smaller than a proton instead of maybe a speck the size of a pea...
Jerry...why it was decided?? Quantum Mechanics predicts singularitys. The math alludes to singularitys. The smallest something can physically be is Planke's size. There are no models that I am aware of available to pre BB phenomenon. The speck you speak of can not be described in terms of size or weight. Size and weight and newtonian physics does not apply when you get down to the quantum level. I have noticed since I have been a member on this board a fair amount of creationist / bible litteralist like to use the word: "speck". why?
It seems to be a common word in creationist circles to describe the big bang. Is there some big name creationist guru using that term? The speck can be better described as a quantum event rather than a size of something. Singularitys are where God divided by zero.IMO.

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Message 16 of 34 (113581)
06-08-2004 10:48 AM
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06-08-2004 7:35 AM


Hi Jerry, lets do a thought experiment: Look at you hand. What is it composed of? Skin,arteries,viens, nerves, bone, connective tissue. What is that stuff made of? Protiens,cells,minerals,water. And take that concept further what are those things composed of? chemical elements Hydrogen,Carbon,Nitrogen, .....and what are those composed of?
arrangements of atoms. and what are atoms composed of? proton,electron,nucleus. And what are those things composed of? subatomic particles, quarks, mesons,bosons,leptons etc..and what are those composed of? Electromagnetic wave packets? Energy? and what is that composed of? can you see it? smell it? taste it? where did it come from? How is it manifested into reality? Whether you believe it comes from God or nature what difference does it make? The simple fact remains that the universe exist. Some believe it was a creator some believe it is a quantum fluctuation that manifested a tremendous amount of energy and caused the universe to begin to unfold. Just because man at this time can not say HOW or why the event took place does not mean it was not God or that it WAS God. If you want to believe it was God then that is groovy, but realize many simply do not attribute this phenomenon to a diety. Many Scientific types do not believe in the supernatural. Something did come from something, but just what exactly fills that gap science does not pretend to know as of yet..that they leave to religion to speculate. *edit typo.
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Message 19 of 34 (113651)
06-08-2004 4:45 PM
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06-08-2004 1:22 PM


Re: statics of black holes
Is that you Mr. Hawking? * edit add: Cuz if not I think you are talking out of the other side of your own blackhole. ROTFL
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Message 33 of 34 (113906)
06-09-2004 1:12 PM
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06-09-2004 8:12 AM


Jerry writes:
is energy totally devoid of mass?
E=MC2
Jerry writes:
why is energy energy?
Why not?
Jerry writes:
Is it caused by interaction of more than 1 substance?
Please define substance. Energy simply exist, I do not know if "caused" is applicable. Energy is the currency of the Cosmos. IMO.

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