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Percy
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Message 3 of 65 (1553)
01-04-2002 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by John Paul
01-04-2002 8:05 AM



John Paul writes:
It was a continent splitting up and then some of the pieces crashing into each other forming the mountain ranges we observe today.
One byproduct of deformation is heat, and with rapid deformation you get a lot of heat in a very short period of time. The presence of intact sedimentary layers in mountain ranges (as opposed to metamorphic rock, the result of heating sedimentary rock to near or past the melting point) is an indication they were not formed rapidly, at least not within a timeframe of less than a few centuries. If you bend a coat hanger back and forth a few times you'll feel how much heat can be generated from even very small deformation events.
The extinction of the dinosaurs was thought to be caused by a comet or asteroid less than 10 kilometers across. Continents splitting up and crashing about to form entire mountain ranges all around the globe and sea floors dropping would be a major extinction event, possibly the last one. Such events would also leave huge amounts of extremely obvious evidence.
Can your scenario be adjusted to be consistent with what we already know about geology and the behavior of physical materials?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 6 of 65 (1571)
01-04-2002 9:53 PM
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01-04-2002 1:41 PM



Percy writes:
Continents splitting up and crashing about to form entire mountain ranges all around the globe and sea floors dropping would be a major extinction event, possibly the last one. Such events would also leave huge amounts of extremely obvious evidence.

John Paul replies:
How so? What would we look for and reference it to? Don't forget that an intelligent agent is also capable of making an intentional act look un-intentional.
I understand you're an advocate of ID, but that's being covered in another thread. My point was strictly geological, that your scenario of recent, violent and sudden creation of mountain ranges and ocean basins is inconsistent with available evidence. Naturally God can do anything and cover his tracks later, but in that case God could have created us five minutes ago complete with memories of this discussion in mid-stream.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 35 of 65 (8762)
04-22-2002 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by TrueCreation
04-20-2002 9:49 PM


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TrueCreation writes:

I'll have to read it, It may be informative, up till now, I have myself decided without knowledge of creationist papers such as the one you cited, what strata were flood deposited, right now, It is about the time preceeding single-celled deposition up till somewhere within the Quaternary period, this link may possibly shed some light on this decision.
Could you possibly shed some light on where the subject and the predicate are in that sentence? Or are you practicing for the Brad McFall look-alike contest?
--Percy
[This message has been edited by Percipient, 04-21-2002]

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