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Funkaloyd
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Message 53 of 151 (263464)
11-27-2005 7:56 AM 		Reply to: Message 46 by Faith
11-26-2005 10:52 PM

Re: Definition of Christian
Faith writes:
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A Christian believes at least the basics as described in various creeds and confessions, and is a Bible-believer
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But not only is there no consensus among those who call themselves "Christians" as to what the basics are, there isn't even agreement over what constitutes Canon.
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Funkaloyd
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Message 91 of 151 (263953)
11-28-2005 9:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 74 by DorfMan
11-28-2005 9:31 AM

Re: Definition of Christian
I'm not saying that there's no way to define "Christian", just that Faith's definition is, well, wrong. And to demonstrate that I'm not just fashionably disagreeing with Faith: Jar's definition is wrong, too. One can ascribe a high status to Jesus and/or his teachings without considering him to be the Saviour/Christ and still be considered a Christian, though the wording might not quite fit.
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Funkaloyd
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Message 93 of 151 (263997)
11-29-2005 2:51 AM 		Reply to: Message 92 by RAZD
11-28-2005 11:33 PM

Re: Definition of Christian
If he didn't consider himself a Christian, then he most certainly wasn't one.
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It doesn't matter, though. The religious right will continue to portray Jefferson et al as Christians regardless of reality or the definition used.
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Funkaloyd
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Message 99 of 151 (264303)
11-29-2005 7:53 PM 		Reply to: Message 94 by iano
11-29-2005 8:03 AM

Re: Definition of Christian
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But if a person is made a Christian by an act of God (which I suggest is the case), then what a person professes makes little difference to anything.
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Unless you have a decent way to test whether a person has been affected by such an act of God (do you?), then we may as well take people's word for it.
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iano writes:
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Gandhi was a Hindu-Christian thus
One can even believe there was no such person a Jesus and still be considered a Christian
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Did Gandhi not believe in the existence Jesus?
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Message 106 of 151 (264599)
11-30-2005 9:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 105 by iano
11-30-2005 12:59 PM

Re: Definition of Christian
What's the alternative? Asking God who is and who isn't a true Christian?
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