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Author Topic:   The Internet is a big place -- other websites debating C/E
RAZD
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Message 1 of 25 (456361)
02-17-2008 12:28 PM


This is not a thread to criticize moderation or to suggest that people leave this forum.
This comment from obvious Child on Advice
I've seen that before. I've even seen a forum where the creationist admin banned a bunch of people because they were making bantha hash out of his creationist members and his member were resorting to personal insults. Sad isn't it?
One of the reasons I like this site is because it is moderated to that trolls\spam\etc behavior is minimized. I find the moderation here is not biased in the way I have seen on other sites, however I understand that it is not always easy to see who is at fault when things get out of hand if you are not involved in the thread.
I've seen references to other sites and the differences in moderation.
What I propose is a listing of other sites that people have been at, with an evaluation of their benefits and liabilities.
Other ones I have posted on are:
(1) AOL Message Board Creation vs. Evolution - a branch of a message board, originally run by netscape before it was acquired by AOL. The board is not moderated at all, leaving anarchy in control.
  • the reply functions allow some formating and you can include links and pictures. It is NOT WYSIWYG, so if you paste into the reply window it may look okay in pasted form, but be completely weird when posted. There is no "quote" function, and there is also no post preview function.
  • with no moderation, the only recourse is to ignore people that engage in bad or abusive language or disruptive behavior. The board does have an "ignore author" function where you can have the messages filtered so that certain posters are not displayed when you sign on. This works as self-moderation.
  • there is no thread control to stay on topic, so you can get a lot of "chat" posts and topics can get buried or so changed that the topic title has no bearing on the topic under discussion.
  • if you don't like moderation, or feel that moderation is always biased against you, you may like this site, as the only control on the board is the "ignore author" function.
  • at the moment there are not many active posters.
It is now run by AOL and you need either an old netscape username, an AIM username or an AOL username to sign on.
(2) Herb Allure Creation and Evolution - a side branch of a forum dedicated to (selling and) discussing the benefits of herbal cures, with a heavy creationist bias, with the owner being an Old Earth Creationists (OEC), but several YEC's posting. Not heavily moderated, certainly the creationists are not moderated for using abusive language.
  • the reply functions allow some formating and you can include links and pictures. It is similar to this board using UBcode in the reply windows but with some differences ([image] instead of [img]) There is a "quote" function, and there is also a post preview function. The reply window is even smaller than the old one here.
  • with light and biased moderation, the only recourse is to ignore people that engage in bad or abusive language or disruptive behavior. Bad mouthing herbal cures will attract more moderation than any other behavior.
  • there is no thread control to stay on topic, so you can get a lot of "chat" posts and topics can get buried or so changed that the topic title has no bearing on the topic under discussion.
  • if you feel that moderation here is always biased against creationists you may like this site.
  • at the moment there are not many active C/E posters.
You need to register a username to post.
Neither of these come up to the level of expertize or depth of knowledge on various topics that I find here at EvC.
So what other boards have people here been to and what are they like?
Enjoy.
Edited by RAZD, : grammar

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RAZD
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Message 11 of 25 (456579)
02-18-2008 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by tesla
02-18-2008 10:04 PM


backups and defenses.
i fear my comp set-up, I'm not well protected, and too poor financially for any real repair.
What you need is a firewall and spyware detector more than anti-virus.
Windoze has a basic firewall that is okay. You can also try ZoneAlarm's free firewall. It used to have a feature that would take messages while you were on line with dial up and you could play them in real time to see if it was someone you wanted to talk to.
For spyware try spyware blaster. It is free and the only drawback it that you have to manually check for updates. I used to use adaware, but once I started spyware blaster adaware has not detected any spyware.
Another thing to do this is to get another hard drive, and regularly switch hard drives, putting in a blank one (or format drive C or run your "restore" disk) and installing the software, updates etc, and then put the old hard-drive on as drive D to copy your files. Keep the old with the files as a backup until the next rebuild.
One caveat: there is one file -- my bookmarks -- that I like to copy and keep (for some reason) and so I keep a copy in my files along with a link to the folder where it resides.
Off topic ... so lets get back to alternate sites visited and what they are like.
Enjoy.

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RAZD
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Message 13 of 25 (456582)
02-18-2008 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by tesla
02-18-2008 10:32 PM


Re: backups and defenses.
with my very slow 22kbps download ability and outdated 98 software,
You won't be a target and all the holes have already been plugged. Kids will lose patience and others won't bother.
Where'd you throw the gas?
Edited by RAZD, : topic

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RAZD
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Message 15 of 25 (456637)
02-19-2008 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by tesla
02-18-2008 10:46 PM


Rants and Raves
From your responses:
quote:
True. And the logic works in this one as well.
a: nothing is better than heaven
b: half a loaf is better than nothing
c: therefore, half a loaf is better than heaven
Sadly, those with whom we are arguing don't understand logic. They argue from assumptions based on mythology.
This is hilarious, because the person claiming to be logical has one big flaming equivocation in his structure:
"nothing is better than heaven" means not one thing is better than heaven
"half a loaf is better than nothing" means half a loaf is better than not having anything.
it was moved from my initial desired forum were i may have gotten a better debate to the flame forum:
Did you read the responses to posts in your desired thread?
You can also ask Occam's Razor guy if it is always right.
Enjoy.

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