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Author Topic:   Does the evidence support the Flood? (attn: DwarfishSquints)
bluescat48
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Message 22 of 293 (466618)
05-15-2008 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Wumpini
05-15-2008 4:57 PM


Re: Why I questioned your calculation
Now I assure you that the earth was not completely flat, but it was also not as it is today. So, it must have been somewhere in between. Therefore, I will tell you what we can do, we will split the difference. That seems fair enough. We will put one half below sea level and the other half above sea level. That would put the water 1,360 meters above sea level.
Where is the evidence for the above statement. Why would it not be the same in only 4000-10000 years.

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Message 34 of 293 (467781)
05-24-2008 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Wumpini
05-24-2008 5:19 AM


Re: Where did all the water come from?
Talk Origins, A list of creationist Claims writes:
Even two miles deep, the earth is boiling hot (260 to 270 degrees C at 5.656 miles in one borehole; Bram et al. 1995), and thus the reservoir of water would be superheated. Further heat would be added by the energy of the water falling from above the atmosphere. As with the vapor canopy model, Noah would have been poached.
Even with this water It cannot explain a global food for the above reason.
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Message 62 of 293 (468169)
05-27-2008 8:55 PM
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05-27-2008 7:29 PM


Re: Where did all the water come from?
My theory is that it was not at its present height.
Why? What evidence is there that ~5000 years ago Mt Everest was not at its present height

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Message 64 of 293 (468187)
05-28-2008 9:15 AM
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05-28-2008 7:06 AM


Re: Height of Mt. Everest 5000 years ago
What you say is true but the change in height over 5000 years, given your 2 different amounts of yearly change, would eaual. at 4mm/yr a distance of 20 meters or at 2 inches/year 833ft which would still have its height at over 28000ft, 5000 years ago not much difference.

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Message 71 of 293 (468237)
05-28-2008 3:38 PM
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05-28-2008 2:53 PM


Re: Where did all the water come from?
Unfortunately even if there is enough water in the ice caps and underground, it has been shown that the end result wouldn't give the desired results do to the added toxic gases, extremely hot atmosphere not to mention the tsunami that would occur with the immediate release of the super heated water under extreme pressure.

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Message 131 of 293 (468532)
05-29-2008 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by Minnemooseus
05-29-2008 9:50 PM


Re: It it possible to dehydrate a hydrated mineral?
I'm presuming that prograde metamorphism of Goethite would yield water. Am I wrong?
What about mantle mineral(s) containing such a (OH)?
Yes 2FeO(OH) would yield Fe2O3 + HOH
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Message 147 of 293 (469011)
06-02-2008 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by edge
06-02-2008 9:46 PM


Re: One Last Questions?
Science says the land mass was in one place at one time.
Science says the land mass was divided to what we see today.
Science tells us it finds sea fossils on mountains proving that land mass was under sea water at one time.
Science says water is subducted into the mantels today.
These are what I call isolated factoids. You cannot make them into anything but a fanciful story. You need to work on your research more.
Yes and he is trying to fit over 4 billion years of earth's history in the space of ~5000 years.
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Message 272 of 293 (471304)
06-15-2008 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by ICANT
06-14-2008 3:53 PM


Re: Timeline of the flood
Coyote writes:
Care to address these bits of scientific evidence, which--if not disproved--definitely disprove the idea of a global flood about 4,350 years ago?
ICANT Writes:
So since Noah and his sons and their wife's were not related to anyone before the flood is the reason the DNA would be different.
But that would mean they had no ancestors and were a new creation.
This goes against your own Biblical account:
ASV Gen 5:
And Lamech lived a hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 and he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us in our work and in the toil of our hands, [which cometh] because of the ground which Jehovah hath cursed.
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: And Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth

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bluescat48
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Message 274 of 293 (471352)
06-16-2008 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by ICANT
06-15-2008 10:58 PM


Re: Timeline of the flood
No problem, but if I missed the sarcasm it could be that others did, also

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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