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Author Topic:   Bush ceding US ports to the enemy?
Jazzns
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Message 8 of 91 (289743)
02-23-2006 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Silent H
02-23-2006 9:11 AM


While I do agree that there is some concern over this issue I also think that any doomsday reactions are a bit premature. The biggest problem with this issue IMO is not the deal itself but the manner in which the administration handled it.
Although we don't want to treat our "allies in the war on terror" that happen to be in the middle east like outcasts it behoves us to at least be cautious and keep the people (and Congress GEESH!) informed about these situations instead of them hearing about it on the 24hr news channels. I mean how dim do you have to be to think that this would not cause problems? I swear it is like the Bush administration cannot see past their own dicks.
I will also completely agree that the "we didn't know about it" excuse is totally baloney. Not only is it a bogus cop out, it actually makes the administration look even more incompentent. Basically it amounts to saying that they put someone in charge of approving these things that didn't think it was important enough to inform anyone that this deal might be controversial. After the Brown scandal with FEMA this is just more dirt to make the hole deeper of how ass backwards people feel as to the ability of this administration to staff itself with even moderatly intelligent people.
Just about the only thing worse that could have happend to ice this adminstration's total ineptitude would have been Alberto Gonzales making a submission to the Iran Holocost Cartoon Contest.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
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Message 27 of 91 (289777)
02-23-2006 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Silent H
02-23-2006 11:04 AM


1) I was in large part arguing this from the original Rep perspective regarding security within the US. They do play doomsday scenarios, so that they didn't here is really a switcheroo. Control the borders against mexicans because we may be overrun by terrorists, but remove control of ports to a theocratic nation? There seems to be a major inconsistency here and I was trying to draw that out.
2) I was also pointing out that the practical elements actually gave greater freedom to a foreign power controlling our ports, than US adults engaged in free speech of a sexual nature. We are willing to tolerate privacy and autonomy of a foreign power operating on our soil, but not to US citizens simply trying to communicate about something that can't result in mass destruction? That's another inconsistency I was trying to draw out.
I think a general thing to point out about this obvious hypocricy is not just that it is true but that it is out there wide open for everyone to see. There isn't even an attempt to do anything more than claim consistency and focus within this administration. The first thing that this reminds me of when I think about it is the behavior of many of the creationists on this board who just declare their position as true. The administration just declares itself as consistent despite the clear fact that they are first of liars and second totally inept beyond comparison.
The more I understand about this deal though the more scary it is beginning to look starting off with the info crash linked to from the AP report. Why the heck are they getting special treatment regarding keeping records on US soil? That DOES make me very skeptical.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
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Message 29 of 91 (289785)
02-23-2006 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Tal
02-23-2006 11:59 AM


I didn't say anything about the UAE. If you had actually read my previous post you would have noticed that I spoke out against a knee jerk reaction to this on the grounds of the country being in the middle east.
That still does not excuse the incompetence of the government. They are blatantly inept and seemingly don't even care enough about what might be important to the American people to bother to tell us about it.
Why did whoever in the administration not think this issue might raise a controversy?
Why is the new company given privelidges that others do not regarding the storage of documents that my later fall under jurisdiction of a US court order?
It has nothing to do with the fact that the company is from the UAE. It has to do with the treatement of the issue by the administration and their fumbling of responsibility to deal with issues that are certain to raise criticisms rather than having them be a suprise to their constituency. And please don't say that , "they didn't know" because all that does it make the situation worse.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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