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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
Modulous writes: Most of these solutions have terrible backlash potential though [...] Yes, Intelligent Design does tend to have that effect, so I think I agree with you:
[...] the chances are the ultimate solution to the problem will be: Natural selection. We could stop spending this earth's wealth on the wrong things, like wars and weaponry. (If you don't produce a Joint Strike Fighter, think of the billions of dollars you could spend on the solutions to real problems - problems that matter.) "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin. Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
robinrohan writes: If people feel threatened, they make weapons. Everybody feels threatened. The problem is that people don't recognize a real threat when they see one. The weapons we should be making are not of the explosive kind. We should make "weapons" against climate change, against overpopulation, pollution, draught, et cetera. Those are the real threats. "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin. Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
iano writes: its only when the threat has broken a stop light and sits right in your path do you think of applying the brakes But why do we never learn the important lesson from this phenomenon? Why can't we learn to apply the brakes when we can still stop the car well before we crash? None of the people who have said something about this subject on this thread are particular geniuses. So if they can see the impending doom, then why can't humanity as a whole do something about it? Or are we just rabbits mesmerized by the headlights of an oncoming car? "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin. Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
riVeRraT writes: [...] I often think about times when you had to work the land for your own food. Back then a over population scenerio would never happen. You are making a logical error: since there's a seamless transition between the times you speak of and our own time, and overpopulation has in fact happened, it would seem that, back then, an overpopulation scenario was going to happen some time in the future.
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
By making weapons, we shift the fear to those with lesser weapons. They in turn will make better weapons, shifting the fear back to us. And so on, and so forth.
In the mean time, an environmental crisis is creeping up on all of us. How stupid can we get? "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin. Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
the repeated lesson from history is that we do not learn from history Wise words, Ian. "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin. Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
Nighttrain writes: Cost, as always, seems to be blocking the more adventurous ideas. randman writes: the issue is cost Wrong. That's where I come in again with the argument I already stated: we are spending way too much money on the wrong things. My example was wars and weapons, and a sideline discussion on weapons ensued, but my main point was that cost itself is not the issue, it's our priorities. Apparently, there's more than enough money available, it's just that the Bushes and the Blairs of this world are making the wrong choices in what to spend it on. "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin. Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
As Q stated, until we develop a cheap source of energy [...] the politicians will meander down a number of paths calling 'Cost. Cost.' If you state it like that, you may be right. A cheap source of energy might be the cure for a lot of things: for instance, I think desalination of water is a costly process partly because of the energy needed for it. Concerning the nuclear vs. alternative debate, I think nuclear energy is only an option if we can manage to get fusion started. Otherwise, the same problem we have with fossil fuels will occur again in the near future: eventually fissile nuclear fuel is going to run out too. "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin. Did you know that most of the time your computer is doing nothing? What if you could make it do something really useful? Like helping scientists understand diseases? Your computer could even be instrumental in finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. Wouldn't that be something? If you agree, then join World Community Grid now and download a simple, free tool that lets you and your computer do your share in helping humanity. After all, you are part of it, so why not take part in it?
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