Is there a correlation between religious fundamentalism and holocaust denying?

All holocaust deniers that I have ever met in my life as well as all the holocaust deniers I have ever known in my life have all been religious fundamentalists, whether they're christian or muslim. The reasons varied from "further research need to be done" to "god is tooo good to allow such a thing to happen".First of all, is there a correlation between the two ideologies or is it just a coincidence? Also, I'm just curious whether we have holocaust deniers here at EvC. In other words, holocaust deniers, show thyselves.

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You really ought to pay more attention to the world around you. When General Ike first visited a concentration camp, he said to his officers that he had no doubt that one day there will be people who will doubt this place ever existed. And he was right about that. There are indeed people today that deny the holocaust ever happened.

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I'd have to agree with fliesonly here. Holocaust deniers aren't just some people that are in the background. They're actually very visible. They always make sure that everyone around them know they are holocaust deniers (sort of like the holier than thou thing I guess). They are everywhere. Mel Gibson's father is one of the more well known holocaust deniers out there. But even among ordinary people, I personally know quite a few proud holocaust deniers, all of them denying they have some kind of anti-semetic view.This is one of those things where I just don't think it's possible for someone to miss unless this someone hasn't been watching the news at all. You can even tune to a random radio station and hear about them.But if you really did miss all the prominent holocaust deniers, please tell me you've heard of the movement Neo-Nazism.For example, one time I decided to go to a different barber for once. I stopped in at a random barber shop in town and had my hair cut. While sitting there, I had a conversation with the barber, which was in his 40's. I don't know how this came up, but the country Vietnam came up in our conversation. He then asked me "wasn't there some kind of war there?"Riverrat, not knowing about holocaust deniers is like not knowing that America once fought an unofficial war in Vietnam. You just can't/don't miss a thing like that.Other facts that a person should know (off the top of my head):
-The Great War 1914-1919
-Otto Van Bismark
-WW2 1939-1945
-Pearl Harbor Dec. 7, 1941
-D-day...Normandy Beach...Hitler got fooled big time... thought main landing was in Greece
-Fat Man (plutonium) and Little Boy (uranium)
-etc.These are things a person should know. I'm sure there are plenty other obvious facts. The point is you just don't go through life not knowing these things. It's weird.

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Ok, smartass, it ended in 1918 instead of 1919. I just looked at wiki again, you dumbass. Seize fire was on november 11, 1918. But formally the war continued for another 7 months before the peace treaty at versailles, you twit. HAW HAW HAW! I WAS RIGHT!Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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What, facts that everyone should know?PS Here is another fact that everyone should know, but apparently Ann Coulter didn't know. Canada was never in Vietnam.Other facts that everyone should know (again, off the top of my head).
-1975 South Vietnamese surrendered
-Beatles were great
-War of the worlds radio event created a nation wide panick
-Hindenburg disaster happened because they used hydrogen instead of helium
-Pie is better than cake
-Martin Luther King
-Nation of Islam (non-Arabic)
-Mister Rogers
-Sesame Street
-The Wiggles
-Raymon Carver
-Yoda
-Darth Vader
-Emperor Palpatine
-Dark side of the force
-USS Enterprise
-Millenium FalconIf you don't know any of these, I advice psychiatric help.

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As a matter of fact, this is the very same reason how swiss banks got rediculously rich from the holocaust. Survivors of the holocaust couldn't prove that their families were dead. After all, the nazis never gave out death certificates. Well, there's a little difference. The nazis kept meticulous records of everything they did. When it was clear that they were going to lose the war, they tried to destroy all the evidence by burning the records and death marching the surviving holocaust victims away from the advancing allied forces. However, as much as they tried, enough evidence and witnesses remained to reveal the true horrors of what they accomplished.But you are right in that the holocaust cannot be proven with any single piece of proof, much like evolution. The nazis made sure of that. The only reason we know about it today is because their extermination campaign was on a scale that even the evil bastards couldn't perform without leaving traces of it behind.

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I don't care what other people believe, a cheesecake is a pie. Haha, it was a joke. Personally, I hate short stories. This hatred stemmed from repeatedly getting bad grades in high school on Raymond Carver's short story reports in English. Mrs. Morrison (we often called her Mrs. Morron behind... in front of her back) was in love with the guy. If Carver was still alive, I'd tell him to shove his metaphorical short story bullshit up his ass.

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Not necessarily. 2 buildings fell, but the rest of the country stood. This is a completely different situation than WW2, where tens of millions of people were displaced. Anyone could make the argument that the victims of the holocaust didn't die in the death camps but were in fact simply displaced. Considering the fact that they found literally millions of remains, most of which were unrecognizable, in a post war environment where tens of millions of other people were displaced and cities in ruins, individual cases could always be denied.

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I pointed this out earlier. I also pointed out that the bastards tried to destroy as much records as they could once they realized that there was no way in hell they could win. I wouldn't say most, but likely a lot of those killed had a paper trail.Just remember that the people killed in the camps were only a portion of the victims of the holocaust. German officers and the SS were nortorious for killing people at random throughout the war. This is not to mention the extermination squads that followed the invasion forces into the Slavik countries and Russia. I highly doubt those victims had a paper trail.In many, if not most cases, the extermination squads would enter a town, kill everybody they could find, and burn the whole place down. In other instances, they made the people dig their own mass graves before executing them.In one of my major research projects, I did a report on the extent of attrocities did by the germans. I can't find it now so I can't give you any reference, but I do recall findings of official complaints made by the commanders of the german army about the seemingly random killings of the extermination squads. The complaints weren't about the inhumanity of the executions. They were complaining because the extermination squads made no attempt to hide their mass killings, and this was demoralizing the troops of the invasion force as well as detering people from surrendering.The most common misconception about the holocaust is that most victims were Jews and that the mass killings were confined to the camps. I'd really love to take a look at these records. But I guess for now I'll have to wait.

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Well, you got me there.

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

Well, so am I, really.Do you agree or not agree that a person should go through life and heard the term "holocaust denier" at least once in his life? Not knowing any specific holocaust denier is forgivable just like not knowing the kind of planes that were used in WW2 is forgivable. But to not know of the existence of holocaust deniers or to not know the existence of planes in WW2 is not forgivable. Again, if you claim to not know any specific holocaust denier I'm fine with it as long as you know holocaust deiners exist. But to go through life not knowing they ever existed is willful ignorance at the very worst level, let alone the ultimate insult to the millions of victims of the holocaust.Regarding WW2, I can tell you a few things about Operation Overlord, Operation Barbarosa, etc. However, I don't expect everyone to even know anything about them. It's fine. But if you go through life not ever knowing that D-Day ever happened or there was such a thing as the Berlin Wall, why on Earth are you here talking to us?

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

I know they don't teach them in American schools. That's why I said I can understand if you go through life never having heard of those terms.And yes, I am a history buff, particularly WW2. Give me a pen and a piece of paper and I'll write out for you in detail each major event in WW2. I'll even tell you all about how Hitler got fooled into believing the Normandy Beach landing was just a diversion.Again, I fully realize that these are not very well known facts, so I don't care if you know them or not. But there are certain things that people really do need to know, even in the most general term.For example, people might not recognize "blitzkrieg", but they should at least heard of the Phony War. They might not recognize "luftwaffe" but they should have heard somewhere about the maginot line. I'm not saying they necessarily have to know what these things are, but they should have at least heard the words somewhere. These are facts that have ingrained themselves in our culture.A little side note. Funny true story.One time I was waltzing along minding my own bussiness and deep in thought about something I can't remember right now. All the sudden, an old man tapped me on the shoulder and I turned around. With him was a young woman. He asked me, "In one word, tell me why Oedipus killed his father and married his mother?"Still being dumbfounded by this stranger's question, I said "fate".He then briefly explained to me that his friend there had never heard of Oedipus and he was just trying to prove to her that any random person on the street would know what he was talking about. He then thanked me and we each went on our merry way.Anyway, our conversation has just reminded me of that encounter.

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

Ok, I have been a little harsh on riverrat. I apologize for that. I guess I've been living a sheltered life.

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

See, all of these are obvious to me. I guess my flaw is I have trouble telling what should be obvious and what should not be obvious.Just curious. What do you think of sputnik? Is it obvious or not? I got some blank stares when I mentioned it a few weeks ago.

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

Again, if you reread what I said before, all the military code names were under the I-don't-care-if-you-know-them-or-not list. Any specific about anything is optional. I realize that.But not ever having heard of "holocaust denier" is like not ever having heard of something like the vietnam war or the hippies. Again, notice that the things I have listed for the must-know list are very trivial things. It's not like I require people to know my birthdate. Actually, here's a smilie back at you Look at Rrhain's reply to this. True true.

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Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!