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anglagard
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Message 7 of 13 (307773)
04-29-2006 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by LudoRephaim
04-29-2006 1:17 PM


There are other places for a foot besides a mouth
In this show, Watson made the claim that he knew only one serious scientist who believed in a personal God who answers our prayers and interfers with our lives and aware of our existence. Edward O. Wilson replied that he didn't know a one, though later he did admit that He knew Francis Collins, who Watson said was a Believer in such a personal God and still was a serious sceintist.
Obviously neither Watson nor Wilson have ever been to the Lutheran Church (or evidently any other church) in Los Alamos, New Mexico. It is full of serious scientists (it is LASL after all, where the bomb was created) that attend regularly.
Watson also made the claim that Darwin was the most important person to have ever lived
He would be the most important person that ever lived to some biologists including those that would not refer to Jesus as a person.
"We didn't hold any councils to decide what was true and what wasn't true"
Actually this statement is misleading. Peer review, while not a formal council, is an important aspect of science.
Which is true in a sense, if one looks at the council of Nicea
Peer review, evidently, is also an important aspect of practicing Christianity
You dont go on National TV In the United States and claim the Bible has been rewritten (majority of Americans are Christians, and many are Jews.), that Darwin was the most important person who ever lived, That the majority of true sceintists dont believe in a personal God, and that Books about Darwin are your Bible!
I agree to a point, such statements are obvious tactical errors in the political realm. However, I understand the frustration one must feel when psudo-Christians attack science and attempt to politicize Christianity.
I find it interesting that when the given shoe is on the other foot, many so-called Christians find no problem in telling anyone they are going to hell if they don't belive in the exact same god, in the exact same way, and attend the exact same church as they do. They are too stupid to know that they have placed themselves above God by declaring who is saved. By damning others they have damned themselves according to their own commandments.
Speaking of shoes, the above damning has happened to me for the sin of being a Panthiest and it has happened to my wife for the sin of being a Catholic. My daughter, who attended the Baptist church with my blessing, was turned into an athiest by them because of their fear before love sermons and attacks upon science.
In comparison, the blunders of Watson and Wilson in not pandering to the sensitivities of the self-righteous seem insignificant IMHO.
Their attitude sems to reinforce Ken Ham's claims that Evolution is a religion
Ken Ham dosen't know squat about science or religion or he would have never said anything so perposterous. In 100 years, Darwin will still be famous, may even still be on the 10 pound note. Ken Ham will be a footnote in a dissertation on the Psycopathology of Psudo-Christian Fanaticism.
(Though I have some doubts about the whole enchilada of the theory of evolution)
I have no doubt concerning the overall truth of evolution, but then I have a degree in geological engineering that I don't consider based upon lies. I hope you can see why this tactical error appears insignificant by comparison despite the appearance of some antievolution bias on your part.
If you critique me, I wont be upset, but if you do, or if you critique others, try to be respectful.
Will try, but not easy in cases where someone proclaims themself God.

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