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Buzsaw
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Message 19 of 129 (487476)
10-31-2008 9:04 PM


Contested =10
Obama Legitimate=255; uncontested illegal (stolen)=9; total =264
McCain total =264
Outcome of contested to be eventually determined = McCain 5; Obama 5
Grand totals:
Obama 269
McCain 269

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 20 of 129 (487477)
10-31-2008 9:30 PM


My Original Prediction 10/10/07
Here back in the primaries I predicted Obama as the likely national winner when the pundits regarded his chances as remote.
abe:
It will not surprise me if Obama becomes the next president of the US despite his lagging position presently.
Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 43 of 129 (487523)
11-01-2008 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by onifre
10-31-2008 10:20 PM


Re: My Original Prediction 10/10/07
Onifre writes:
Don't try to claim bragging rights yet sir! You must wait till the election's over.
My point was that back then Obama's chances were considered slim by the pundits. My assessment back then was based on the fact that a large sector of Americans, especially among (abe: the young and the minorities) are beginning to think like Germans thought during the pre-Hitler decades. They are ripe for the picking by the likes of Obama.
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Edited by Buzsaw, : as noted

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 45 of 129 (487525)
11-01-2008 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by anglagard
10-31-2008 10:19 PM


Re: Ask The Self-Proclaimed Prophet
anglagard writes:
Would you like to reveal for our edification exactly where these stolen electoral votes are from?
From organizations like Acorn and Obama's army of community organizers which he had handily organized in place in preparation for his campaign.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 48 of 129 (487538)
11-01-2008 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Rahvin
11-01-2008 1:43 PM


Re: Ask The Self-Proclaimed Prophet
Rahvin writes:
You're an utter imbecile, as is anyone else screaming about ACORN. ACORN is required by law to submit any any all voter registration cards, even if they have reason to believe they are fraudulent. They simply flag the ones they believe are invalid before sending them in. Most of the registration forms McCain is whining about were pointed out in writing as likely fraudulent by ACORN themselves! And no matter how many people fill out "Micky Mouse" on a voter registration form, they still have to show up on voting day with a valid ID. That means "Micky" had better be his legal name.
There is no fraud going on from ACORN, at least not on an organizational level (individuals can by and are, as always, lazy amoral idiots), and you'd need to provide evidence of actual votes being cast fraudulently, not simply false voter registration.
Of course the irony of a Republican complaining about "stolen electoral votes" is rich. Does it hurt to be that utterly stupid and ignorant, Buz, or does it just come naturally to you to believe whatever Faux News tells you without ever finding out what voter registration organizations are required by law to do when they're handed a likely fraudulent registration form?
Rahvin, I've emboldened segments of your message which you shouldn't be proud of and emboldened segments of a reliable national business weekly editorial which supports my integrity and understanding relative to my position. That we do not agree is by no means indicative that either of us is an imbecile. Why is it that whenever we disagree that you think you need to go on a personal attack?
Investors Business Daily writes:
It's a legitimate question to raise now that the FBI has raided the offices of the nonprofit Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now in Nevada and North Carolina, two states where Obama and John McCain are running neck-and-neck. ACORN has registered bogus voters in both states.
The group's voter-registration fraud is rampant, and authorities plan a nationwide sweep of ACORN offices to collect records.
In Nevada, state officials say the fraudulent registrations included forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team, including quarterback Tony Romo.
"Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada," Secretary of State Ross Miller said, "and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4."
While those names will be flagged on Election Day, felonious voters may have better luck using other cutouts. Nevada, along with several other key battleground states, requires no ID to vote.
In North Carolina, where Obama has been running nonstop ads, ACORN has registered a record number of new voters, many of them suspicious. Statewide, Democrats are doing better than the GOP in new converts ” even in traditionally Republican counties.
There have been 218,749 newly registered Democrats in North Carolina since January ” more than five times the 38,337 new Republicans, state records show.
The numbers show a startlingly close political battle even in Republican-dominated Union County, with 4,233 new voters registering as Democrats and 4,362 as Republicans. In previous election years, new Republicans have outnumbered Democrats 2-to-1 in the fast-growing Charlotte-area county.
In Missouri, one ACORN registrant named Monica Rays showed up on no less than eight forms, all bearing the same signature.
Suspicious election officials sent letters to some 5,000 ACORN registrants in St. Louis, asking the letter recipients to contact them.
Fewer than 40 responded.
In Kansas City, 15,000 registrations have been questioned, and last year four ACORN employees were indicted for fraud.
In addition, ACORN officials have also been indicted in Wisconsin and Colorado. Investigations against others are active in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Tennessee.
ACORN has also been registering convicted felons ” including inmates ” in Florida and other battleground states. ACORN boasts registering a record 1.5 million new voters so far this election.
What does all this have to do with Obama, besides the fact that he'd be the beneficiary of most, if not all, of these new votes?
For starters, Obama paid ACORN, which has endorsed him for president, $800,000 to register new voters, payments his campaign failed to accurately report. (They were disguised in his FEC disclosure as payments to a front group called Citizen Services Inc. for "advance work.")
What's more, Obama worked as executive director of ACORN's voter-registration arm, Project Vote, in 1992. Joined by two other community organizers on Chicago's South Side, Obama conducted the voter-registration drive that helped elect Carol Moseley-Braun to the Senate that year.
The next year, 1993, Obama joined the civil-rights law firm Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, where he sued the state of Illinois on behalf of ACORN to implement the federal "Motor Voter" law, which the GOP governor at the time refused to do. Then-Gov. Jim Edgar argued, presciently, that the Clinton law would invite voter fraud.
Obama downplays his ties to ACORN, and his campaign denies coordinating with ACORN to register voters.
Meantime, New Orleans-based ACORN maintains that it has no control over volunteers who are falsifying application forms, that they're like employees who steal from the store.
But the fraud is widespread and not isolated. It also turns out that some ACORN execs allegedly are involved in a $1 million embezzlement cover-up at their headquarters. Representing them in the case is none other than Michelle Obama's old law firm in Chicago.
ACORN's corruption is not just out in the field, as they claim. There's a pattern of corruption from the top down.
McCain would be wise to start preparing a challenge to voter registration rolls should he lose the race in a close contest. He'd be crazy not to contest the results in light of these events.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 63 of 129 (487645)
11-02-2008 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Taz
11-02-2008 12:02 PM


Well Then Vote!
If you really want him to win why not vote? The more wanting someone to win who don't vote the less of a chance of them getting their wish.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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