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Hi Percy!I finally made it here, and in browsing back through old messages, I came across this question you put to me:"I'm intrigued, to say the least. Is it that your mother was a homemaker while you're a career woman, or something more dramatic?"I'm not sure whay your're imagining, Percy, (wink).Seriously, though, my marriage is different because of the relaxed-to-nonexistent gender role thing, for one. It has less to do with WHAT we do, and more to do with the expectations of who is "supposed" to do what, or who feels responsible for task X.Jim doesn't expect to never do the laundry, and I don't expect to never wash the car or kill a spider. That kind of thing.Also, my husband and I are really friends, and we work on our marriage. We stay together because we want to, not because we have to because of a religion.Mostly I have a different marriage because I work on being a happy fulfilled person, and that is something my parents, particularly my mother, never seemed to be able to be.Ah, well. I broke the cycle, and that is what is important.Does that answer things for you, Percy?Allison------------------
"Never trust something that thinks for itself if you can't see where it keeps it's brain"--Mr. Weasley

Shame, shame on you, Percy!OTOH, it's kind of nice to be thought of as exotic.My husband and I have been in both hot tubs and snorkeling gear, although not at the same time.Does that count?LOL!Allison

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Originally posted by redstang281:
I'm sorry but I consider God more of an authority than yourself. God said sex is his gift to a married couple. For those who choose to abuse this gift there is std's. Before the fall of man there was no sin (or degeneration.) Animals didn't kill each other for food, there were no thorn bushes, and most likely no std's. This was something the bible says came about after man's sin. If you consider the fact that two people who withdraw from sexual attivity until marriage and then are faithful to one another it becomes apparent that my theory is true. As for a husband who gets aids from a cheating wife, maybe God is paying him back for some other sin he commited earlier. I believe it is intirely possible that we are not always punished emmidiatly after we sin. But that being said still I must erge you to understand this basic fundamentalist christian understanding that we are all sinners!! Even when we are born. The sin that Adam commited is carried down through all his generations. Therefor no one is innocent.

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God did not create evil. Even though God has control over everything, God did not make lucifer's rebellion against him. It does not seem logical but that's because we can't understand it. God actions are not limited to our comprehension. A contradiction to us is comprehension to him.

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God didn't create evil, and he doesn't control it, yet he is all powerful??? God controls everything, and therefore evil, or he doesn't. So, everything bad that happens to anyone is because of God, but God isn't bad? I'm confused.God DOES contol evil and bring evil upon people, according to the Bible, sometimes just to win a bet with Satan, as in the story of Job. What a nice guy, that God, torturing and bringing misery upon his best servant, Job, just to win a bet! What a user! God really IS male, isn't He?1Sa 16:15 And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee.2Ki 21:12 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I [am] bringing [such] evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingleNeh 13:18 Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city? yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the sabbath.Jer 44:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, and upon all the cities of Judah;and, behold, this day they [are] a desolation, and no man dwelleth therein,

[QUOTE]Originally posted by redstang281:
[b] Our sin has brought the evil into the world. God allows evil to punish us for our sins.

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[/QUOTE]But Job was the ONLY good and just man in all the land, yet God decided to torment him cruelly to test him.Job wasn't a sinner. That was my point.

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Originally posted by joz:
Hey, as a male I resent that!!!

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Sorry. Must have had to deal with one too many needy males at work that day!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by redstang281:
[b] Our sin has brought the evil into the world. God allows evil to punish us for our sins.

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[/QUOTE]Also, you did not address my other point that God controls evil and uses evil for his own ends, evidence for which I provided in the form of several Bible quotes.Please comment.