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Author Topic:   Dawkins - 'The God Delusion'
Chiroptera
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Message 60 of 167 (368673)
12-09-2006 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by shabawala
12-09-2006 10:56 AM


Re: critique and discussion
Well, unfortunately, comments like
My fear is that postmodernism will result in a significant dumbing down of our society and into that vacuum the old teachings of atheistic secularism (which have so largely been defeated at least at an intellectual level) will make some kind of come back.
does not inspire any confidence in the web site's intellectual standards. In actual fact, it has been the arguments in favor of theism that have been pretty well discredited, as well as arguments against secularism and atheism. It is theism, at least the more militant forms of it, that have been on the defensive for about, oh, three hundred years or so.
But perhaps you can supply something that would inspire confidence in the intellectual rigor of that site?
Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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Chiroptera
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Message 155 of 167 (409671)
07-10-2007 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Cold Foreign Object
07-10-2007 6:31 PM


Re: Delusion
But at the same time, delusion is understood to mean that the deluded is unaware of being in a state of delusion.
So if you were the deluded one, then you wouldn't realize it. In fact, you might be convinced that it was the other people who were deluded.
Interesting thought.

Q: If science doesn't know where this comes from, then couldn't it be God's doing?
A: The only difference between that kind of thinking and the stereotype of the savage who thinks the Great White Hunter is a God because he doesn't know how the hunter's cigarette lighter works is that the savage has an excuse for his ignorance. -- jhuger

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Chiroptera
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Message 157 of 167 (409695)
07-10-2007 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by Cold Foreign Object
07-10-2007 9:34 PM


Re: Delusion
The source I provided (Bible) said, in context, that God "sends strong delusion" to those who reject Christ and the gospel message. Since I do not reject Christ and the gospel message, Dawkins and Crashfrog are suffering the delusion, which explains why they "think" God does not exist.
Exactly like I said! If you were truly deluded, you probably wouldn't recognize how ridiculous your post sounds!
Edited by Chiroptera, : added "truly"

Q: If science doesn't know where this comes from, then couldn't it be God's doing?
A: The only difference between that kind of thinking and the stereotype of the savage who thinks the Great White Hunter is a God because he doesn't know how the hunter's cigarette lighter works is that the savage has an excuse for his ignorance. -- jhuger

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