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Author Topic:   Defining Unconditional love
ringo
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Message 35 of 104 (448404)
01-13-2008 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by pelican
01-12-2008 6:10 PM


Re: does unconditional love exist?
Heinrik writes:
Unconditional love. We all want it but we don't know what it is.
Speak for yourself.
"Unconditional love" is one of those absolutes that just doesn't exist. In your own example, you thought you loved somebody "unconditionally" but it turned out to be temporarily. The condition was, "until you screw up beyond Point X."
The best you can do is come as close to absolutely unconditional as you can. Be aware of the conditions you package with your love.

“If you had half a brain, wouldn't you have realized after the second time, that it was you, not God?” -- riVeRraT (see context here)
“The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.” -- ThreeDogs

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ringo
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Message 54 of 104 (448627)
01-14-2008 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by ThreeDogs
01-14-2008 9:13 AM


ThreeDogs writes:
What should happen to the bullheaded who will never change? You will stop calling them your children.
Of course not.
If you can't care for your children adequately, you might give up their care to somebody else who is more capable. But that doesn't apply to God.
Only the lowest of the low would disown his own children because of misbehaviour.

“If you had half a brain, wouldn't you have realized after the second time, that it was you, not God?” -- riVeRraT (see context here)
“The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.” -- ThreeDogs

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ringo
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Message 66 of 104 (448819)
01-15-2008 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by ThreeDogs
01-15-2008 9:35 AM


ThreeDogs writes:
quote:
If you can't care for your children adequately, you might give up their care to somebody else who is more capable. But that doesn't apply to God.
Are you familiar with the biblical term reprobate? Check it out, if you are not.
If you have a point, feel free to make it.
The part of my post that you quoted says that God is not incapable of caring for His children (nor is there anybody more capable than He is). Whether or not His children are "reprobate" is irrelevant.

“If you had half a brain, wouldn't you have realized after the second time, that it was you, not God?” -- riVeRraT (see context here)
“The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.” -- ThreeDogs

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ringo
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Message 70 of 104 (448886)
01-15-2008 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by ThreeDogs
01-15-2008 3:34 PM


Re: From Romans 1
Where does your quote from Romans show God disowning His reprobate children?
Are you aware of the parable of the prodigal son?

“If you had half a brain, wouldn't you have realized after the second time, that it was you, not God?” -- riVeRraT (see context here)
“The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.” -- ThreeDogs

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