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NosyNed
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Message 7 of 17 (63673)
10-31-2003 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Rei
10-31-2003 2:02 PM


Re: And the
There is room for some circularity. The measurement seems to be paritally based on quality of eduction. If that includes comprehensiveness of the science education then any attack on it by creationists would affect the "smartness" measure.
What I am saying is that there is a possibility that the smartness measure is low because of creationist interference rather than the creationists gaining a foot hold because the population is not smart.
I'm not interested enough to check out exactly how smartness was measured. And my personal view would be that if a state allows interference with the classroom by fundamentalists then it isn't "smart" . So I'd go along with the results on a personal basis.

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NosyNed
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Message 11 of 17 (63849)
11-01-2003 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Buzsaw
11-01-2003 7:01 PM


Well, Buzz, If I was living in the US I would support the study of creation science in the science class. It has to be creation science though since I also support the separation of church and state (which since you are in a minority I'm sure you do too).
It isn't necessary here since the creationists have little to no influence on our schools.
There I would love to see some time spent examining creation science. Since the evidence that has been presented here is pretty typical of what is available I would enjoy the howls of outrage when the fundamentalist viewpoint was torn to pieces in the public classrooms. It is too bad that classroom time is so tight and doesn't allow for fitting in too much more.
If you think it can stand up in a science class then please suggest a curriculum. Supply what you would have taught and the evidence for it. This is a science class you understand. No miracles, no bible, just evidence and tight logic. That has been in short supply here.

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