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kuresu

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Message 1 of 7 (310400)
05-08-2006 7:10 PM

i don't want this to be long, so that's why I want it here.

I'm currently debating a creationists who denies evolution becasue her refuses to accept that we have observed speciation. If you all would be so kind as to give a list of examples and perhaps websites or other refernece material I would be quite grateful

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Message 2 of 7 (310417)
05-08-2006 10:10 PM

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05-08-2006 7:10 PM

try talkorigins

Try this website for starters:

Observed Instances of Speciation

Talkorigins is usually a good starting point for things that come up in the creationist vs evolution debate.

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EZscience

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Message 3 of 7 (310423)
05-08-2006 10:20 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by kuresu
05-08-2006 7:10 PM

Start here...

I started a thread here more than a year ago with just such an objective. A lot more examples have appeared in other threads since, but I think you will find quite a few here to start with.

There was also a nice example of sunflower speciation on an island mentioned here .

Kuresu, this should really be a PNT in the 'biological evolution' forum - its not 'coffee house' material. That way, you would be quickly directed to existing info on the topic.

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Message 4 of 7 (310424)
05-08-2006 10:21 PM

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05-08-2006 10:10 PM

Re: try talkorigins

that faq (section 5 of it) is really quite good. thank you. THe only way he can deny speciation now is to irrationally wipe away the evidence for it.

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Message 5 of 7 (310436)
05-09-2006 1:24 AM

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05-08-2006 7:10 PM

kuresu

Here are a few.

http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoEvidence.html

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Message 6 of 7 (310441)
05-09-2006 3:05 AM

Not a "Coffee House" type topic - Moving to "Links and Information"

So far, it is a valid "Links and Information" type topic. But remember, the "L&I" forum topics are for links and links anotation only, and not a place to debate the content of the links. If you wish to debate content, go to an appropriate Biological Evolution topic, or propose a new topic via the Proposed New Topics forum.

By the way, the promoted version of the topic EZscience cited in the first sentence of message 3 is Macroevolution: Its all around us.... It is now closed at 306 messages (all topics are closed when they hit +/- 300 messages.

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