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ohnhai
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Message 1 of 3 (180072)
01-23-2005 10:31 PM


Ok all this isnt serious so no flames, please
Found this old bit of writing that I did some time ago ans re-read it. thought it amusing enough that you might like to have a chuckle over it.
It was concieved after reading Timothy Freke's "the Jesus Mysteries" and I had an idea and ran with it. It was fun and not in any way serious.
So here it is
DNA is GOD?
Pagan/Gnostic beliefs:
The outer mysteries of a personification of the dying-resurrecting Goodman are allegory for the inner mysteries or secret knowledge that was taught on several levels.
The ‘knowledge’ of Gnosis was encoded into these allegories and frequently included mathematical and geometrical ‘secret’ knowledge.
It was held that only through Gnosis, or Knowledge, could you understand the true nature of God.
It was held that the Universal Daemon is God and that our own Personal Daemon is in fact the Universal Daemon.
It is taught that only though the Universal Daemon can we achieve resurrection
It was taught that the Godman AND the Goddess were vitally important to the understanding of the Universal Daemon, and thus understanding the resurrection.
Other Beliefs :Christian and so on:
God is all around us and is in every living thing.
We are made in God’s image
Pagan/Gnostic/Scientist?
To me it seems that the Pagan/Gnostic (P/G) system looks to be ‘Science’ waiting to happen. Science before it knew what it was. It seems that there is little coincidence that some of the acknowledged fathers of modern though were also the most prominent Sages of the Osiris-Dionysus Godmen. The root belief of the P/G system’s core, that knowledge of the Mysteries [of life?] was the key, seem totally in step with the quest of modern science to understand the way the universe works by discovering the knowledge of it’s rules.
It seems reasonably plain that the Sages of the P/G systems found wonder in all things associated with nature and were trying to find the answers to the BIG questions. It’s also fairly obvious that they believed that the mathematical and geometrical facts encoded into the P/G teachings were part of this answer That that they considered these observations significant enough to the understanding of the true nature of the Universal Daemon, to encode them in their teachings, does seem to point to the conclusion that this was a proto-scientific thought before science had developed its full mental and physical took kit.
Human centric.
From my limited readings into religion, the overriding pre-occupation of religions and faith systems does seem to be to strive to answer the BIG question. This is not Why is the universe? but Why Us?, What is my reason for being? Why am I here?. Sure most religions have creation myths to ‘explain’ how all things started but what it boils down to is how this relates to ME.
So in this light the story is about God and the individual. God and Life. For millennia It was believed that the universe existed for us, revolved (literally) around us, But as we have expanded our knowledge we have discovered this was false. But that shouldn’t shift the focus of religion, as I will explain, the God that people have been seeking is indeed cantered around all life on this planet.
The Universal Daemon (UD) is part of all living things.
When you achieve Gnosis you come to the knowledge that we are part of the UD and in fact the UD is a part of all life. We are it and it is us. Though this knowledge of the UD we come to the understanding that though the UD we die and are resurrected, re-born.
Goddess/Chalice/Womb
P/G systems teach that you need the Godman and the Goddess. That it doesn’t work one without the other. We are taught we need both. Before the Literalist Church wantonly eliminated as much ‘heretical’ practice, system and text as it could through slaughter and demonisation. (You do have to ask the question: If they were in the right why they were so afraid of these ‘Blatant Falsehoods’? but I digress) The Goddess was openly worshiped and her symbols stood for rebirth and purity. In the more recent ‘Grail’ theories it is suggested that the holy grail is in fact Mary Magdalene and in turn she is an allegory of the goddess and the womb.
In God’s image..
This is normally taken (literally) to mean God looks human and made us look like him. This view has caused no end of problems. But when an artist paints an image there is nothing to say that that image has to look like the artist, but you will find that a lot of that artist will end up in that image. So when you think on the term in God’s image it should be realised that the image is not a physical interpretation of what god looks like, but the result of the will of god. Put another way, ‘how God defines us to be’.
To summarise:
If we take P/G systems to be a very early expression of scientific thought. We can only expect to find God/The Universal Daemon though scientific knowledge
If we accept that the primary goal of religions is to define the reason and meaning of human life, then we should not be surprised if the answer is biological rather than dealing with the firmament. We shouldn’t be surprised if the answer is indeed in all living things.
We are taught that we need both the Godman and the goddess to reach Gnosis and re-birth of ourselves/the UD.
We are made in the image of the UD.
In conclusion.
I put it to you that I can give a new name to Osiris-Dionysus, God. That name is DNA.
We have discovered so many things though science that once were simply deemed miraculous and beholden only to god. We have gained so much knowledge that would have been seen as divine by the ancients. Have we achieved Gnosis? Have we recognised the true nature of God through the secret knowledge? Have we found God?
Science, despite it’s infighting between the different disciplines, is striving to understand the way this universe, us included, works. All scientists will hold that knowledge is the key. Science doesn’t care how you tell the story, just so long as it brings you to the true (verifiable) knowledge. Theories are great, just so long as you don’t hold them to be true, unless you can prove them, and thus are good tools (like allegories) for searching for the secrets of the universe.
We have come to understand the importance of DNA to life on this planet and to us as humans. DNA is indeed the driving force of existence and life. DNA is what makes us what we are. It defines us as humans, cats as cats, grass as grass and so on. In a very real sense we are made in the image of our DNA. A gene for red hair, a gene for height, a gene for all physical attributes and many mental ones too. DNA has a definition, design, image of what each of us are, and though each one of us is different we are the same. We are what the DNA makes us. Also as our DNA is the same stuff, simple base pairs in pattered sequences, all DNA sequences are essentially the same thing, just in slightly differing configurations.
So DNA is in all living things and, baring sequencing, pretty much the same thing. It defines who and what we are (it partly defines our personality and outlook on life, but this collides with nurture and thus is outside the scope of this letter.) but that is not the end of the story because DNA on it’s own will not create a living being. You need some kind of oven in which to mix and bake the recipe contained within the DNA. This is where the goddess comes in
You need the Godman and the Goddess in unison to be resurrected through the UD. Only when male and female get together and create a child does the miracle of DNA work. Ok Mitosis can be kicked off in the lab but this embryo need to be implanted into a female to become a new child.
It is understandable that the allegorical patterns chosen for this ascribe the UD to the male and the Goddess to the female and they can’t have understood the mechanics of the process as we now do. It would seem logical that the UD was passed by the male to the female and thus new life springs forward (the true miracle)
P/G belief systems teach that we can only be resurrected though the UD and through Gnosis you will gain the knowledge to understand the true nature of GOD. As we are conceived our parent’s DNA is combined and becomes an embryo for a new life, which is then born. Through ‘our’ DNA we will be re-born, resurrected in our children, and though science we have attained the secret knowledge of god’s true nature.
DNA is GOD.
just to re itterate, this was written as fun and is not ment to be serious ok. just thought you might enjoy the read...

  
Zawi
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Message 2 of 3 (181191)
01-27-2005 7:51 PM


DNA is God, but only when such a statement is justified by the long winded tripe that precedes it. The concept of God has always been rather malleable, thus making it very easy to assign God status to any object that takes our fancy. I'm sure that with the right words, we could conclude that I am also God.
Also, I suggest that the writer of that piece uses less slashes in his future literary attempts!

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RAZD
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Message 3 of 3 (181198)
01-27-2005 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Zawi
01-27-2005 7:51 PM


I'm sure that with the right words, we could conclude that I am also God.
but if you get them backwards you end up a dog

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
{{{Buddha walks off laughing with joy}}}

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