mentally, the ark makes sense...

Gen. 6:14 Make thee, as if an ark of gopher wood, a Brain that thinks sanely and
reflects my Reality; rooms, of various levels of consciousness shalt thou make in the ark of this Brain, and shalt pitch it within and without, covered by the skull, with the pitch of twenty-two bones.Gen. 6:15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of, as if ready for the entire Collective Mind of Modern Homo Sapiens: The length of the ark shall be proportionate to three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits, or roughly the dimensional proportions of, say, an egg plant, as high as it is wide, but maybe six times as longer.Gen. 6:16 A window of understanding, into the Modern Homo Sapiens mind, shalt thou
make to the ark of this Brain, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above, covered with the
thin skin of the Cerebral Cortex; and the door of the ark, the twenty-four Cranial Nerves, shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, Unconscious: second, Subconscious: and third, Conscious, stories or levels of thinking shalt thou make it.Gen. 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters of Modern Homo Sapiens
upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, mentally recreating a new consciousness upon earth, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven, all previous abstract thought; and everything that is in the earth, physically and material things, shall die in the passing of lower humanoids, such as Neanderthal Man.

The coincidence of a flood of Homo Sapiens,...
.... in the sudden population explosive recorded in our science books,...and the presence of millions of animals named by us, in the aftermath of that explosion... 40,000 years ago...... that the science of Paleontology on the one hand, and the iscience of Biological Taxonomy aids those men in identfying by name millions of animal forms...... is either a.. (holy god!)... amazing coincidence with the story of Noah.Even the coincidence that of the three sons, one, Ham, specifically is explained to be the predecessors of the African world of that time is at least curious.Is it not a coincidence of strangebproportions in both the science books we KNOW to be true sndvthe Holy Books we BELIEVE to be true?Is it not?Do you know what I am talking about.

Homo Sapiens was around in very small numbers until for some rea on exactly 40 thousand years ago his population exploded. He widely dispersed in the world and as the inly creature with language was for the first time ever able to call to fellow hunters tge name of the type of animak he had come upon in a hunt.The planet earth suddenly resounded all over with screams of hunters and fishermen telling one anther where te prey was to be found.
This we know.Some sort of metaphorically understood the same thing but they did si 3500 years age, in the day of Moses.

"Saul, Saul why doth thy persecute me?"

Dan. 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

The Neandertals’ last bastion appeared to be the Iberian Peninsula, where fossils from a Spanish site called Zafarraya have been dated to 32,000 years ago and tools attributed to Neandertals have been dated to around 28,000 years ago.
Neandertals were living in some of the most desirable real estate in central Europe as late as 28,000 years ago.Fred H. Smith, The Fate of the Neandertals, Scientific American April 2000, p. 106
**Hmmm... now wanted that "choice real estate I wonder......?

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Registered: Sep 2002Message 1 of 104-07-2004 12:34 AMMy impression is that your postings have been pretty consistently devoid of real content. Most recently, I was looking at your contributions at
"10 cubits across and 30 cubits around".I suggest you look at the Forum Rules, and decide which ones you are violating.
Rocky,
Did you see the warning (below) you got?Remember the theoweb thru you off!Shape up and stop the non-sense. Remember the charity these Christian rendered for you and your family when you were all destitute. Dhow some respect, even if you attempt here to malign and besmerch my repetution before I had a chance to let my posts speak for themselves.Thank you however for clearly evidencing that we are far and removed from one another.(Rocky... did you read this warning?...
"Stick to the topic, and get some relevant discussion into your messages. Also, you've started at least a couple of dubious topics. Lay off that also."
This is a official warning.)

"About 40,000 years ago an appreciable population explosion in Modern Homo is evidenced in the fossil rocks."That is the flood.Sure, I am certain a little explanation will make the simpliest ideas confusing.Yes, many Hominoids co-existed at one and the same time.
All disappeared but the flood of Homo Sapiens.Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men (hominoids) began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,Gen. 6:2 That the sons of God (pre-Homo Spaiens) saw the daughters of men (Neanderthal) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.Gen. 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit (of Natural Law) shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh (and must adapt to my Reality): yet his days, (Neanderthal) shall be an hundred and twenty (thousand) years.Gen. 6:4 There were giants (Homo Erectus) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (pre-Homo Spaiens) came in unto the daughters of men (Neanderthal), and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men (hybrids leading to Modern Homo Sapiens) which were of old, men of renown.Gen. 6:5 And GOD, (the Reality of Universal Power) saw that the wickedness of man (including Neanderthal) was great in the earth, and that every imagination of (his abstraction of Reality) the thoughts of his heart (or his psyche) was only evil (and unrealistic) continually (as regards the process of adaption).Gen. 6:6 And it, (the evolutionary process), repented the LORD that he had made man (all hominoids in general) on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart (that cataclysmic changes were to come).Gen. 6:7 And the LORD, Almighty Universe) said, I will destroy man (of these types and species) whom I have created (to mentally, in analogy, abstract consciously a model and schmata of Universe) destroy them from the face of the earth (extinction!); both (this species and kind of) man, and (his idea of) the beast, and (his idea of) the creeping thing, and (his idea of) the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.[This message has been edited by kofh2u, 04-07-2004]

1) Obviously after searching and searching you are reluctant to grant the analogy.Am I trying to convince you?Of course not.. Those who read us are the audience I speak to, and surely they appreciate the fact THAT someone as astute and erudite as yourself... can NOT fault me.That for their sake, you have tried and tried, is enough.By reasonable doubt, I feel free of your criticism to continue.2) You have insisted that there is NO ration explanation for an actual flood. A flood which you have most certainly denied, and presented massive evidence against in other posts, have you not?3) I think you can not have it both ways, that the flood was not literal nor analogy, which leaves us with only YOUR "proof," by default, that it is myth.That myth is what you mean to prove by default of no reasonable explanation explains your opinions which you spare between paragraphs of induendo. You would present the flood to be evidence that the Holy Scriptures are a LIE at worst, and a worthless FABLE, at best.4) So, let me proceed then on the basis that you have failed here, and with the intellectual integrity I would assume to stand between us, hopefully you may poke a hole elsewhere in my take on these two Holy Books.Fair? I don't exactly "win," yet, but you sure are hard pressed to fault the literary technique of metaphor, true?5) As regards the use of "flood," in the sense of huge numbers of people suddenly moving together, symbolic dictionaries might be a better resource for us.However, the simile of "waters" meaning "peoples and nations" IS explicit in Revelation. The idea of an army "flooding the land" of the enemy is use also in scripture.Nevertheless, this whole story of the flood is only part of a much larger concept in my literary critique of Genesis. As it turns out, much of the story is constrained by a specific technical device, sort of a "key' to the nature of the literature. That is to say, I have much evidence and an number of exhibits to allow the following statement:Genesis IS NOT Hebrew poetry nor prose. Genesis IS a script for a live presentation of the Hebrew epic It is a drama.As such, much of what is read in Genesis is missed and misconstrued because of the technique by which it is presented.6) Old Testament:Jer. 46:8 Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy the city and the inhabitants thereof.7) New Testament:Rev. 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

You are limit in your ability to understand...Dan. 12:3 And they that be wise in those end times, (educated and
thoughtful), shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness (in the wisdom and knowledge (of Hebrew scriptures) as the stars for ever and ever.

The obvious metaphor for a flood which is just ending mow, the wave of Homo sapiens population that began as a ripple 40,000 years ago has eliminated all other close relatives, perhaps with the exception of one or two Big Foots.
The supposed science experts here (at flashing URL references) deny the common sense of a metaphor concerning our known co-habitation with Neanderthal, in particular, (perhaps others, too). They ignor that we are little changed from the day 40,000 years ago, and that part of our nature is to reportsuch stuff forward. It is realistic to assume that such a co-habitation did exist, because of the fossil record. It is sensible to believe the tales in the Bible which confirm just that event, inbreding. It is stubborn anti-scientific attitude to stick to denegrating ANY bible message just out of hand, and it is just dishonest, too.But, why wpuld supposed honest educated science people argue aagainst literal interpretations and merely ridicule metaphorically?Because they are simple against the Bible and the Bible people, totally. The easy mark of Creationist and water floods is their target. The honest reinterpretation of the way men centuries ago misread the ideas of Genesis is an anathema to them...BECAUSE then the Bible is way powerful, having evolution clearly reported long before these guys even thought ablut it, science guys of all ages, that is.That, maybe the story in the bible is a way to assure that the tale would ultimately reach us, since over the dull ages of thousands of years, without some artistic license and some appeal to simple story telling that seemed reasonable, we would never get the paleonthological reports from guys way back then, to match what we are discovering today, for ourselves.But, the religious people bought a literal story centuries ago. They stick to stories like glue.Know why?Because they HAVE other stories they KNOW are a hard sell, so they actually believe they are softening people up for resurrection talk and eternal life, etc, by being unbelievable stubborn about the facts compared to the Genesis Analogous day interpretation.What they do not know is that, with genetics, resurrection is just a matter of time, tho' a shot in the dark at 6.66 billion to one... hey, wait... that one resurrection per each generation, now...

yeah, sort of, and a little bit of each of your suppositions.The chance of the exact right genes coming together, to recreate a person, we know is a long shot. But the pool is gigantic at populations of 6.66 billion people now.Still, the thing is that Jung and freud thought that our Unconscious Mind, 75% of the mind, is a storehouse of our whole phylogenetic existence as a species. They thought that it had tremendous input which we are unaware of, and that there was a metaphysical Collective contact between us all, via this resource.It is recreated, our Unconscious Mind, in the reconstructing of the next generation. It contains the memories, and metabolic programs, and instincts, stored to operate unconsciously. The Unconscious Mind has been storing long accumulations of our conscious behavior, to,...so we may have a jolt WHEN it becomes conscious, just as our subconscious has been so enhanced this last century.In that storehouse is a replay, or a play back, of our life, lives, even the whole evolutionary trek of our part in the species itself.In this we would/will experience the eternity of the past, as opposed to the present hope to have one after death.What a switcher rue that will be. Judgement day and all, by the opening of our vast unconscious minds...seeing the endless past... remembering... as if dreamy angels... knowing... all too well.Rev. 21:1 And I saw a new heaven (of Total Consciousness) and a new earth (from the sociological behaviors resulting) thereafter: for the first heaven (of semi-consciousness) and the first earth (of Paganistic practices) were passed away; and there was no more sea (of unconscious behavior).This message has been edited by kofh2u, 06-16-2004 11:35 PM

hahahaa..We still have time, then, have we not?As the old cartoon of Pogo used to remind the reader, "I have meet the enemy, and he is me.?" Modern Homp sapiens, the sixth major evolution sitting upon the sixth head of a revived Roman paganism, in the sixth historical era of a Technological Age.

wow!
That is interesting.Where did you meet the 60 people who believe these things?What forum or message board did you encounter these believers on?And, could you be more specific, I mean what exactly are you referring to, the metaphor?The idea that it makes sense, mentally, that Noah's story in Genesis concerns the surge in the Modern Homo sapiens populations @ 40,000 years of "days and nights" ago?Are you referring to having heard others now repeating this, that it was us, we who sort of "rained down upon the world" which we now know had been dominated by Neandethal Man?Or, are you referring the intuitive conclusions that we are resurrected by means of the genetically reproduced Unconscious Mind which we obviously all carry around in the "ark-like" skull of our most recently evolved being?Thoughts of Carl Jung:The Collective Unconscious is a storehouse of all the experiences of humankind transmitted to each individual. As the repository for all past experiences, it includes even our pre-human animal ancestry. (Assumably through the genetic processes.) It becomes the primary base of a person's pyche, directing and influencing behavior. It is the deepest and most inaccessable level of the psyche. Jung believed that a person accumulates and files all of his past experiences, so does humankind, collectively.Whereas in the Personal Unconscious , each of us stores our individual accumulated experiences, in the Collective Unconscious, humankind as a whole accumulates the experiences of the human and prehuman species, and passes this wealth of experience on to each new generation. The Collective Unconscious then contains the entire catalog of experiences that have marked human evolution, and it is repeated in the brain of every human being in every generation.This message has been edited by kofh2u, 07-02-2004 06:48 AM

Thank u for the www lead.I will try to read these ideas posted by the people you say are so much in agreement with me.Perhaps they too are reading the signs of the times.It would be very nice to find such a ready audience for this interesting and secularly compatible interpretation of the Book of Revelation.thx again guys.