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Message 242 of 299 (92663)
03-16-2004 1:02 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by Percy
03-12-2004 4:24 PM


Re: Creationist in the Closet
"The Creationist who accepts a natural origin of species" is not a creationist by the usual definition of the word
Creationism Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
is pretty specific about it involving literal biblical creation
Creationism - Wikipedia
cuts a little more slack, but still shows a strong literal christian bias.
more like an evolutionist in the closet ...

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RAZD
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Message 244 of 299 (92754)
03-16-2004 12:06 PM
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03-16-2004 8:48 AM


Re: Creationist in the Closet
That is pretty broad based ... you might just as well say "anyone who is not an atheist" because even agnostics think supernatural activity may be involved or have been involved.
The purpose of words is to draw distinctions and when the distinctions blurr the words become useless: if I call all my tools "hammers" because they are all tools, then I have trouble asking for a screwdriver.
A proper term imho for your definition is theist
Theist Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
Is a Buddhist a creationist if they believe that everything has always existed in an endless cycle of reincarnation, while still allowing supernatural behavior?
I find it interesting that a survey of Americans showed that approximately half didn't know what creationism was ... (I can find the survey and the actual ratio if need be).

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RAZD
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Message 251 of 299 (93231)
03-18-2004 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by Brad McFall
03-18-2004 3:38 PM


Re: Noise, or music
Not just the solar system, but throughout space (although we are more likely to find it there than across cosmic distances with our current means and limitations)
We know that some 'organic' molecules are found in deep space
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/life-01zi.html
(Kitt Peak - October 1, 2001)
This would tend to bias life development to use this molecule rather than try to replicate it or a near likeness from the bottom up. The effect may be indistinguishable from organic contamination.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand

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RAZD
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Message 254 of 299 (93431)
03-19-2004 8:09 PM
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03-19-2004 10:50 AM


Re: Nomusic or the silent state of posterior problems
do fluctuations at subatomic level cause self organizing trends in low gravitations fields?

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand

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