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JonF
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Message 17 of 39 (93112)
03-18-2004 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by joshua221
03-17-2004 10:26 PM


Rapid Ice building layer upon layer in less then one year is (to my knowledge from a brief skim) being presented here.
Although your claim was already refuted in the first message in this thread, see also Creationist Comedy.

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JonF
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Message 18 of 39 (93113)
03-18-2004 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by joshua221
03-17-2004 10:33 PM


Re: Raise your measly 110,000 years
Ever stop to think of your dating methods?
Yes, many times, over and over and over again. They've been tested six ways from Sunday and cross-correlated to a fare-thee-well and passed every test.
Or is ignorance bliss?
Care to start a thread on radiosotope dating in the proper forum and see who's really ignorant? Better be prepared to discuss isochron dating, concordia-discordia dating, quantum physics as it applies to radioactive decay, the Oklo reactor, the decay of radioactive cobalt in SN1987A, and a few other topics ... but don't bother to bring up potassium-argon dating. (And if you don't know why you shouldn't bother to bring up K-Ar dating then you are not qualified to have a serious discussion).

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JonF
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Message 34 of 39 (93224)
03-18-2004 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by wj
03-18-2004 6:25 PM


Re: corroboration
The uranium-series dating is used on ancient rocks to give dates of close to 4 billion years old.
That's the oldest rocks ... the oldest minerals that we've found are zircons that are 4.3 to 4.4 billion years old. See Earlier Water on Earth? Oldest Rock Suggests Hospitable Young Planet.
Lead-lead isochrons (another variant of uranium series dating) is used on meteorites and terrestrial rocks to obtain the generally accepted age of the Earth: about 4.55 billion years.

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JonF
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Message 36 of 39 (93335)
03-19-2004 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by RAZD
03-18-2004 7:04 PM


Re: corroboration
The point of the layers is that the ages are not based on any scientific theories, just counts.
Nitpicking in creationist mode, the relationship between counted layers and years is based on a scientific theory (albeit an excptionally well supported one).

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Message 38 of 39 (93490)
03-20-2004 9:27 AM
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03-19-2004 8:50 PM


Re: corroboration
at that level of nit-pick, getting out of bed in the morning and expecting your feet to touch the floor is based on theory.
But that doesn't stop a creationist from denying the layer-to-year relationship because he/she didn't personally observe every layer forming.

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