Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2

CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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Correct. Our latest comic-book hero, UCD-man, started life as a bacterium, but he can transform (evolve) into different creatures, depending on whatever environmental conditions he finds himself in. For example, sometimes he's a vegetable; sometimes he's a lobster; sometimes he's a human. He can do this bcoz vegetables, lobsters and humans are cousins and all evolved from a common ancestor.

[qs=Kleinman]AZPaul3 is afraid for reader to read these papers because they burst his mathematically irrational belief system.]/qs]
Atheists like APauling are afraid of the light. Have pity on him.

Atheists like APauling are afraid of the light. Have pity on him.

AZPaul3:

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CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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AZPaul3 cannot understand the following papers so he must claim that they are wrong. AZPaul3, you are very zealous in your mathematically irrational beliefs but they are wrong. Have you even read these papers, let alone understood them? I list them again for you.
For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistanceThe single selection pressure model applies to the Lenski Long Term Evolution Experiment but you have to include Haldane's biological competition model to do that calculation. Here is a new video presentation that shows how to apply the single selection pressure model with Haldane's biological competition model to the Lenski experiment:
The Lenski Long Term Evolution ExperimentYou may not understand this, AZPaul3, but someone with scientific and mathematical training and experience will understand this.

Kleinman:

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Sure, they can get an out of work Transformer to play the role. He turns into whatever the environmental conditions require.

Dredge:

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Correct. Our latest comic-book hero, UCD-man, started life as a bacterium, but he can transform (evolve) into different creatures, depending on whatever environmental conditions he finds himself in. For example, sometimes he's a vegetable; sometimes he's a lobster; sometimes he's a human. He can do this bcoz vegetables, lobsters and humans are cousins and all evolved from a common ancestor.

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It makes for good comic book entertainment for children, but it is lousy training for scientists. Scientists trained with this type of fiction are unable to explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Scientists should not be trained with fantasy comic books.

Kleinman:

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AZPaul3 is afraid for reader to read these papers because they burst his mathematically irrational belief system.

Dredge:

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Atheists like APauling are afraid of the light. Have pity on him.

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AZPaul3 is driven by his hate. He hates God and he hates people that believe in God, even if their belief is flawed. His parents named him Paul (perhaps after the apostle). It makes you wonder whether he hates his parents because of this.

I have the evidence that it has happened 203,000 times. I also have the evidence of a currently active retrovirus creating ERV's in real time. There are koalas that have over 50 of these endogenous insertions.Long-read genome sequence assembly provides insight into ongoing retroviral invasion of the koala germline - PMCIt's not that hard to figure out that these stack up over time. In one moment you are trying to say that these insertions destroy cells. Now you are saying that it causes cells to reproduce uncontrollably as well as being immune to apoptosis. So which is it? Or you are just wrong, as demonstrated by the mountains of evidence you ignore. We can watch the endogenization process in real time in koalas. These koalas have many new insertions throughout their genome, over 50 in known cases. They aren't melting into a gelatinous goo because the virus is killing all of their cells. You are just wrong. I lack a belief in gods. That makes me an atheist. I don't know if we can even know if there are gods. That also makes me an agnostic. I am both. One is about what I believe and the other is about what I can know. Those are two different things.I also don't claim that gods don't exist. I am still an atheist because I don't have a positive belief in any gods. You don't believe in Thor or Vishnu just like I don't believe in your God. If you still think the multiplication rule applies to sexually reproducing species then you need to go back to your studies. I'm not sure when the earliest retroviruses started inserting themselves into the genomes of host organisms. However, as they accumulate mutations, recombine, and are deleted by indel events they are no longer recognizable as retroviral insertions by the algorithms used to detect such sequences. So you have really old insertions that are either completely removed by indel events or mutated to the point that they are no longer recognizable as ERV's. There are other older insertions that are just on the edge of being detected. Then there are progressively newer insertions that are increasingly easier to recognize as ERV's.The 8% figure for the human genome also includes MaLR's which is a combination of transposon and retroviral repeats. It is a transposon that has picked up a retroviral LTR and is populating the human genome through transposon activity. I usually don't count these as ERV's. The figure I use is 4.7% from ERV classes I-III as detailed in the 2001 human genome paper. The vast majority of those insertions are just solo LTR's due to homologous recombination between the homologous LTR's.
Initial sequencing and analysis of the human genome | Nature

An atheist can't hate God because they don't believe in God. We can no more hate God than you can gate Santa Claus . . . unless you believe in Santa Claus. Do you?

You don't even understand how a Punnett square works. I learned that in 6th grade, and you can't seem to understand what it means. You also can't seem to understand that a vertebrate genome is made up of many chromosomes, nor understand how alleles and genes work. Let's not even get into your complete misunderstanding of how meiosis works. Most of the time you can't even understand that there is more than one gene in a genome.

Kleinman:

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You are being silly again. You are claiming that it happens 203,000 times.

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I have the evidence that it has happened 203,000 times. I also have the evidence of a currently active retrovirus creating ERV's in real time. There are koalas that have over 50 of these endogenous insertions.

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Let's consider another one of your irrational ideas in more detail, that of ERVs. You claim that humans and chimps share 203,000 ERVs because a common ancestorial lineage had these ERVs before the human and chimp lineages branched. And those ERVs represent 8% of the genome of both humans and chimps. Here's a simple representation of the nested hierarchy. Were ERVs being accumulated in the genomes of the earliest life forms? If so, what is the percentage of the genome of these ERVs accumulated? And when were these ERVs accumulated in human/chimpanzee lineage.

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I'm not sure when the earliest retroviruses started inserting themselves into the genomes of host organisms.

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Of course, you aren't sure. You are speculating. Viruses attack every life form. Bacteriophages are viruses that invade bacteria. Everything living cell is a potential target for a virus.
Virus - Wikipedia

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A virus is a submicroscopic infectious agent that replicates only inside the living cells of an organism. Viruses infect all life forms, from animals and plants to microorganisms, including bacteria and archaea.

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Kleinman:

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You are being silly again. I learned how meiosis works in biology.

Taq:

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If you still think the multiplication rule applies to sexually reproducing species then you need to go back to your studies.

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Why do you want to show your mathematical incompetence? The probability of an adaptive recombination event occurring depends on the frequencies of each of the adaptive alleles. You compute that joint probability by multiplying each of the frequencies of those alleles. You didn't learn that in any of the comic books used in your training.

Kleinman:

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He hates God and he hates people that believe in God,

Taq:

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An atheist can't hate God because they don't believe in God. We can no more hate God than you can gate Santa Claus . . . unless you believe in Santa Claus. Do you?

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Don't you remember what you wrote in response to what I wrote? Message 681

Kleinman:

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So, when an atheist says there is no God,

Taq:

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I'm an atheist and I don't say that. Perhaps you don't understand atheism?

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Do you want me to post the definition of atheism again for you?

Kleinman:

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Scientists trained with this type of fiction are unable to explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

Taq:

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You don't even understand how a Punnett square works. I learned that in 6th grade, and you can't seem to understand what it means. You also can't seem to understand that a vertebrate genome is made up of many chromosomes, nor understand how alleles and genes work. Let's not even get into your complete misunderstanding of how meiosis works. Most of the time you can't even understand that there is more than one gene in a genome.

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Take Punnett's square or anything else you know about genetics and you still can't explain the evolution of drug resistance or why cancer treatments fail. Biologists failed at understanding the fundamental principle of descent with modification and adaptation. That is a fact. And you are a perfect example of that educational failure.

It's always funny when religious nutjobs, like you, try tell atheists what atheism is.

Kleinman:

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Do you want me to post the definition of atheism again for you?

Tanypteryx:

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It's always funny when religious nutjobs, like you, try tell atheists what atheism is.

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Tany is a perfect example of why social promotion has failed the educational system.