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Topic: Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 337 of 1104 (906838)
02-16-2023 6:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 334 by sensei
02-16-2023 5:59 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
But I'm not gonna blindly follow one single method, without any critical thinking and ignoring reality. That is exactly what you did when you joined the cult. You abandoned reality for your religious fantasy without evidence.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 341 of 1104 (906842)
02-16-2023 6:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 338 by sensei
02-16-2023 6:11 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Ignoring the troll Please do. And while you're at it see if you can find your missing god.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 348 of 1104 (906853)
02-16-2023 6:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 345 by Taq
02-16-2023 6:32 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
How does the Bayesian approach work with these conditions? By being a buzz word.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 383 of 1104 (906922)
02-16-2023 9:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 380 by Taq
02-16-2023 8:57 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Deliberate willful ignorance or actual stupidity. Is he deliberately misunderstanding or is he really that dense?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 398 of 1104 (906952)
02-16-2023 9:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 390 by sensei
02-16-2023 9:45 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
If a man would share his genes with all women alive, would that break the nested hierachy? Why should it?
Every child is the same species as the parents. If all came from one parent, it can be considered one big family. Yup, that's us. One big ole family of human beings.
If a human managed to reproduce with a monkey, would that break the nested hierarchy? Should it? You still don't understand the concept. Nested hierarchies don't work that way. All you can do is start new ones.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 400 of 1104 (906955)
02-16-2023 10:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 396 by sensei
02-16-2023 9:54 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
A hat can just be as functional, protecting against sun and heat or against rain. Now he's into zen. This is good. Improvement may be imminent. He may yet find us his god.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 412 of 1104 (906999)
02-17-2023 4:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 411 by Phat
02-17-2023 3:44 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Home school, one-room school, alabama school, doesn't matter. Whatever the processes he passed through didn't work. The system failed, again, to prepare the kid properly for responsible adulthood. It left him a religionist without a god. Now he gives society pain.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 424 of 1104 (907075)
02-18-2023 5:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 423 by sensei
02-18-2023 4:58 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Now, sensei, don't be offended. That amusement is part of the charm of this place. By the way, I am deficient in my manners. I forgot to welcome you to EvC. Welcome to Evc. We are glad to see you. OK. Now you're a freakin creationist religionist yahoo. Back to the discussion.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 437 of 1104 (907269)
02-21-2023 12:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 434 by sensei
02-21-2023 12:22 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Again, not surprising as common ancestry lacks good arguments and logical reasoning. Really? What arguments and reasoning do you object to and why?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 444 of 1104 (907281)
02-21-2023 1:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 441 by sensei
02-21-2023 12:53 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
I showed how the nested hierarchy argument is poor. Where?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 457 of 1104 (907329)
02-21-2023 4:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 454 by Taq
02-21-2023 4:05 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
kleinman writes: (explain) reproductive fitness advantage over chimpanzees using your nested hierarchies. This is the knowledge base you are trying to deal with. This guy needs years of re-education. I am skeptical of anything enlightening coming from this. The disconnect from reality seem deeper here. Anyway, good luck.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 469 of 1104 (907359)
02-21-2023 7:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 467 by Taq
02-21-2023 6:35 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
His response at 468 has earned you a St. Jude medal.
St Jude Medal
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 475 of 1104 (907419)
02-23-2023 2:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 474 by sensei
02-23-2023 1:57 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
What data should we be looking at? What data says "related" in biology that is not within a nested hierarchy? How do you get ancestors and descendants without creating a nested hierarchy? Inplace of nested hierarchy what pattern do you see in the data?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 477 of 1104 (907443)
02-24-2023 7:18 AM
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Reply to: Message 476 by sensei
02-24-2023 4:07 AM
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Re: problems with detecting design
According to you they are not. So, again, what data says "related" in biology that is not within a nested hierarchy?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 484 of 1104 (907494)
02-24-2023 2:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 481 by sensei
02-24-2023 11:26 AM
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Re: problems with detecting design
You try to deny common ancestry. You claim a nested hierarchy would not result from evolution. You claim that the observation of a nested hierarchy is erroneous. If you are right and the nested hierarchy is not what we see, then what pattern should we find. If your intelligent design fiat creation is right then what pattern of relatedness should we see in the fossil record?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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