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Stephen ben Yeshua
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Message 31 of 35 (83252)
02-05-2004 1:25 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Amlodhi
02-04-2004 12:02 AM


Re: Getting her number
A.
You have to pretend there is an answer to find out if there is one. No, more than pretend, you have sincerely want there to be an answer, then hope, then pretend. Or you cannot find out the truth. She just won't give out her number. That's why is all about choice, and willingness to "buy" the truth. With enduring the risk of having a suite of emotions that might be disappointed.
S.

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Amlodhi
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Message 32 of 35 (83339)
02-05-2004 10:25 AM
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02-05-2004 1:25 AM


Re: Getting her number
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Originally posted by Stephen ben Yeshua
You have to pretend there is an answer to find out if there is one. No, more than pretend, you have sincerely want there to be an answer, then hope, then pretend.
Exactly my point. Many of us spent years sincerely wanting there to be an answer, then hoping there was an answer, then pretending there was an answer.
Some of us finally just got fed-up with the pretending.
Namaste'
Amlodhi

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Stephen ben Yeshua
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Message 33 of 35 (83831)
02-06-2004 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Amlodhi
02-05-2004 10:25 AM


Re: Getting her number
Amlodhi,
Hmmmmm. You say,
Exactly my point. Many of us spent years sincerely wanting there to be an answer, then hoping there was an answer, then pretending there was an answer.
Some of us finally just got fed-up with the pretending.
Oh, yeah. If pretending, using the right protocols, doesn't produce some encouraging response, I usually move on to other hypotheses rather quickly. Sometimes, I know that I failed because I couldn't do the protocols. Such as, in Chem Lab. But, then, I do lean on chemists to get that job done.
My presense in these forums is partly based on my opinion that the most important subject in the world is applied epistemology, or what methodology is best for getting at the truth. This subject is widely neglected, and as a result, many have to learn a lot the hard way. It wasn't until I was thoroughly trained in H-D science that I was able to make my pretending work for me, to get me the truth. Actually, though, it was the heart to hope and learn that I really was having problems with. But, that's a point of H-D science, too. It protects against fatal subjectivity. As long as you really do choose to live, and want as much life as possible, I think learning that methodology will lead you to "discover" what you were pretending had a measure of truth to it.
Stephen

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Message 34 of 35 (83930)
02-06-2004 12:00 PM


Bayesian H-D Method Off-limits For This Topic
Stephen's Bayesian H-D method can be discussed in the thread The best scientific method (Bayesian form of H-D). In order to keep threads like this from being taken over by off-topic Bayesian H-D discussions, Bayesian H-D may no longer be discussed or mentioned in this thread.
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RingoKid
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Message 35 of 35 (84069)
02-06-2004 8:21 PM


did you hear the one about the dyslexic insomniac agnostic who lay awake all night wondering if there is such a thing as a dog...
...and the aboriginal "dreamtime" is actually "the dreaming" one implies a linear timeline from a fixed starting point and a possible end the other a continuous process that we are still in
death is a continuation of life with our life spark/energy trans muted in to that of the universe life spark/energy and karma dictates what happens next...
of course that is all personal opinion and you are allowed to have a different one...subjectivity based on personal experience and accumulated knowledge is great isn't it ???
determine your own truth
define your own reality
as you were...

  
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