Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

Yes, I know you love to make such claims yet NEVER, EVER, provide support for your positions. Kinda like Trump who also NEVER, EVER, provides support for his positions.However, the questions persist. It is interesting to examine those characteristics in light of Faith's posts and today's USA.Is there a group that believes liberal democracy is obsolete?Is there in effect a one party system in the US where one party has control of the Judiciary, the Executive Branch and the Legislature?Is there someone who claims to be a strong, perhaps even Uuge, leader?Did the government say the plan is to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society?Is the plan to advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies?And finally, is there a leader who has said that the US must strengthen it's military as a way to Make America Great Again?It's true that NewSpeak allows you to redefine words so that good is bad and lies are truth and that there are "alternative facts" yet the questions remain.

You do know that Wahhabism is simply one sect of the Muslim Faith and that even that is not a monolithic position.But it is NOT Islam. Even in the Wahhabi sect it is only an extreme minority that holds the position that anyone who is not a member of the Wahhabi sect is an infidel.Yet even in Trumps utterly stupid order on immigration there were no prohibitions based on someone being a Wahhabi and for a very good reason.That definitively would have been unconstitutional. In the US even Wahhabi's have Freedom of Religion, the Right of Free Association, the Right of Free Speech, the Right to Due Process and Equal Protection under the Law.

And it is still a fact the George Soros was only born in 1930.

If that were true the proper response would be "Thank GOD!"Unfortunately that simply is not the case and the US still has a long way to go before being eligible to join the civilized Nations of the world.

Aw, poor baby.No one hates you Faith. They may pity you, pray for your enlightenment and education, really dislike the fact that you seem to have no sense of empathy, desire for truth or wisdom, general honesty, but hate? No Faith, not even il Donald rises to the significance that hate is called for.

One thing still not being discussed is that many illegal aliens in the US still pay taxes, provide services, own or rent homes, take part in their community, have kids that were born in the US and so are US Citizens, in other words, behave just like most other people living in the US.When we deport the working mother of young US citizens what do we do with the kids?When we deport the folk that work in our stores, harvest our crops, buy gas at the local gas station, rent the apartments, wait on the tables, work in our health care system, work for the power company or the day care or cook our food or build homes or all the other absolutely normal things so many illegal aliens do, who will replace their positions, pay their share of taxes, rent the apartments left vacant?If we deport the owner of a home who takes car of the maintenance on the property?Honestly, it really seems that this whole silly issue has never been thought out at all.

Too Funny. Faith it is even being reported in today's news. A mother in Phoenix was arrested when she reported to immigration as she was ordered to and has been doing for at least four years. She is being deported and in fact many US Citizens were arrested for protesting her deportation. Her two kids who are US citizens are now forced to see their mother removed and shipped to Mexico based on a past conviction for impersonation in a case that was later deemed to have been unconstitutional.Plus today a conservative Judge appointed by Bush and confirmed by the Senate had his decision to stop il Donald's stupid immigration order upheld. That's a conservative source Faith.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin there ----> their

Sure. There are likely a million and a half such folk in greater New York, another million in greater LA, a half million in Houston.BUT all those millions of people actually live in houses or apartments, buy groceries, gas, clothes, they pay taxes, have kids that are US citizens attending US Public Schools, work in US stores, restaurants, factories, schools, hospitals, farms and businesses. They shop in the malls, eat at McDonalds and Pink's, drive cabs and ride buses and trains and no one even notices they are there or different.

But once again reality intrudes Faith to show you are wrong. Wrong again.The Justice that granted the initial stay is a Conservative appointed by Bush and confirmed by the Senate and will serve for life.The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found unanimously in favor of his ruling.This is not a left/right issue; it is a matter of the law. The Trump Presidency failed to provide any reasonable justification for his stupid immigration order.If the Administration can't support the order or provide reasoning for the order why should it be put in place?Edited by jar, : appalin spallin Just ---> Justice

No one has said that there should be no vetting. And yes, all borders should be treated equally. It is not a case that all borders are equal, but some borders are more equal than others.However someone living in the US for over twenty years in a stable family situation with two kids that were born in the US and so US citizens seems to qualify as vetted.AbE: Also, I see no reason that Muslims should be treated any differently when it comes to vetting than Christians or Buddhists or Taoists or Animists or Jews or Hindus or atheists or agnostics or Satanists.Edited by jar, : see AbE:Edited by jar, : appalin spalling that ----> than

Judge Richard Clifton was one of the three judges and was appointed by President George W. Bush.The original stay was issued by Judge James Robart who was also appointed by George W Bush.So half of the Judges who have spoken to the issue so far were conservative appointees.

It seems that the crime that led to the deportation of the Phoenix mother really was heinous. It seems she was working at a the Golfland Sunsplash Amusement Park in Mesa back in 2009 under a false id. Since then she has been reporting at least annually to immigration.She had been in the US since she was brought here when she was only 14, grew up here, married here and has two US Citizen children and her great crime was working to help support her family.Yup. I feel so much safer now that she is back in Mexico.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title grammur

The Truth Project as a source for anything but propaganda and lies?Sheesh Faith. Focus on the Family is a less reliable source than even the nutjob Celia Farber.No wonder you never get anything right with sources like those.

Just like George Soros funds projects.

Which is significant.Can you give us an example of such sabotage?