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Message 1336 of 1639 (780438)
03-15-2016 11:34 AM
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03-15-2016 11:30 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
That is a massive non-sequitur. That many Muslims are anti-Semites doesn't show that all anti-Semitism is Islamic. We know that is not the case.
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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Message 1344 of 1639 (780454)
03-15-2016 12:58 PM
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03-15-2016 12:43 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
The Bible is anti-Semitic too.
And there are far-right hate groups in France, too.
https://www.rt.com/news/154644-nazi-party-france-hitler/
Neo-Nazis on the Rise in Europe, Jews | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com
And elsewhere in Europe
Neo-Nazi Activity On The Rise in Europe

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Message 1349 of 1639 (780459)
03-15-2016 1:10 PM
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03-15-2016 1:03 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
Evidence that the Koran tells Muslims to kill Jews, please. And do you deny that the Gospels claim that the Jews bear the guilt for Jesus' death ?

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Message 1361 of 1639 (780482)
03-15-2016 2:07 PM
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03-15-2016 1:33 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
The Hadith are not in the Quran, so the Quran does not call for the killing of Jews
And perhaps you can tell me why you leave out 2:190 From your quote ? Did your source omit it ? (And let us not forget that Muslims hold that the Jewish God is Allah)
quote:
No action at all by others against the Jews is even hinted at. This is simply a factual report about what happened.
An allegedly factual report (it's probably false) which happens to burden all Jews with guilt for the death of the Messiah, who is even taken to be God. Anti-semitism is not just about actions.

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Message 1394 of 1639 (780525)
03-16-2016 3:46 AM
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03-16-2016 3:15 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
Don't forget the rise of the far right, which is also associated with anti-Semitic violence, and is also of concern to Jews in Europe.

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Message 1397 of 1639 (780528)
03-16-2016 4:20 AM
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03-16-2016 4:01 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
Algemeiner cites the rise of the far right as a cause for concern, and even leaving - in the reticle I linked to previously Neo-Nazis on the Rise in Europe, Jews | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com
Neo-nazis are certainly linked to violence EU migrant crisis: Arrival of refugees in Germany 'fuelling rise in neo-Nazi violence' | World | News | Express.co.uk
Really, are you suggesting that heo-Nazi's AREN'T violent anti-Semites ?
Or that Jewish concern over the far right doesn't exist when Jewish sources say otherwise ?

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Message 1402 of 1639 (780546)
03-16-2016 11:56 AM
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03-16-2016 9:50 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
Faith, my point was that you mentioned Muslim ant-semitism and you mentioned left-wing anti-semitism, yet you did not mention right wing anti-semitism even though there is genuine concern about it in the Jewish community.
Algemeiner on the rise of the far right in Europe:
Obviously Jews need to gauge the progress of Europe’s economy and the impending uprising in their midst. Passports should be up to date, and excess funds moved to safer shores. Israel might prudently prepare for an influx of European Jews.
So why didn't you mention it and why not as it that you should have mentioned it ?

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Message 1406 of 1639 (780554)
03-16-2016 2:06 PM
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03-16-2016 12:14 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
quote:
I didn't mention it because it hadn't been given as a reason for the move to Israel, only the Muslim attacks, the synagogue burnings and so on.
Apart from the fact that it had been - at least if you had bothered to read the Algemeiner article.
quote:
It didn't even cross my mind. It's a factor I see now but not a big one for some reason. I mentioned the Left wing version because I'm very aware of it since I receive
In other words you just didn't think about it. You could have admitted as much without arguing. Though it's quite bizarre that you'll think about Hitler and Nazis when you want to silence opposing opinions or attack Obama, but not when talking about European Jews.

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Message 1480 of 1639 (780930)
03-28-2016 4:58 AM
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03-27-2016 10:35 PM


Re: Tweren't the Mormons...

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