Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread

Yes there's lots of evidence that Muslims are more prone to committing violent crimes. Even evidence on this thread.By the way I'm reading the book that did arrive yesterday (Philistine by Ramon Bennett) and it's so interesting I may not get around to posting from it for a while. I read it back in the late 90s which is of course a long enough time ago for me to have forgotten a lot of it. I remember it for the quotes from Muslim leaders about Islam's strategy for world domination, but there's a great deal more in the book, including a chapter about the habitual violence of the Arab culture, and one interesting bit of information is about how when Arabs who live in Israel moved out for some reason I forget, have to check the book which is out in the kitchen, anyway, when they left the rate of car theft and burglaries went down by 30%. The book is extremely well documented, but such facts are of course verboten by political correctness standards nevertheless. Maybe I'll go to that thread or maybe I'll start one about Islam's agenda for world domination. Will see. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It's truly remarkable how the Left is capable of hallucinating the absence of evidence for facts they don't want to believe, in the face of tons of it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Hallucinating irony is also a wonderful skill of Leftists.

I think it speaks more to the totally ignorant and suicidal Political Correctness that has enslaved Europe, rendering them incapable of reasoned self-defense, rather than genuine historically informed compassion. Compassion has to be intelligent. Not much intelligence running this show at all. As I recall the Jews had to return to their countries where they were systematically exterminated. The current refugees are housed in refugee camps, not returning to their countries. As I said, refugee camps aren't great places but they are at least away from the immediate threat they are fleeing.The situation is also not parallel in that there was no threat of violence from the Jewish refugees, their religion doesn't advocate murdering Americans or Christians or anybody, or taking over the world, and their culture is rational and civilized. They were turned away because of inflexible immigration policies of the time. In the case of the Muslim refugees, like it or not their culture and their religion are potential dangers to the West. This is an entirely different situation and it calls for great wisdom. I'm glad to hear there are Christian workers going among them to help and identify potential problems. If you had any realistic sense of the mentality of Islam you might realize that dealing with this situation in a wise and humanitarian way is a monumental problem needing a LOT of time and wisdom.Meanwhile at least note that they are not being sent back to their original countries as the Jews were.ABE: THe others who have mentioned refugee problems in general are also not taking note of differences between different cultures. Jews, Asians, Hindus, etc., are not problems to the West. It is specifically the Muslims that have to be considered potential problems because they are taught by their religion not to assimilate but to seek by different means to overthrow all nonMuslim cultures. The political correctness that requires us to deny this reality is pure suicide.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I shouldn't need any more evidence than I've already given.Why are you talking about violent acts when what you quoted was about how Islam leaches against assimilation and eventual overthrow of nations?If you all ventured away from the standard politically correct leftist media into, say, Jewish and Christian sources, or read a book like the one I've mentioned here, Philistine, by Ramon Bennett, or perhaps The Blood of the Moon by George Grant, or The Arab Mind by John Laffin, and another by the same title by Raphael Patai and a number of others on the subject of Islam, you wouldn't need a poster on EvC to give you the evidence for these things. I've given quite a bit of evidence here as it is that is just nitpicked to pieces because of the general PC brainwashing. However, I may yet be able to assemble some from the book I am reading and start a thread on it. It's tedious because it involves copying out quotes and all the footnotes to them.The demand for evidence at EvC is nothing but a PC smear in the end, it's not about evidence at all. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That is a staggering piece of self-delusion.

Everybody here makes unsupported assertions, most of which are not challenged. Mine are always challenged, however, although mine are probably more reliable than most. This whole idea about "unsupported assertions" and the demand for Evidence, which even when given is never accepted but nitpicked to death, is just a conceit and a way to avoid considering truths you'd rather not know about. There's a ton of evidence out there and I've given lots already. Nevertheless I plan to muster more, mere fodder for the great PC maw of EvC I know it will become anyway.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Great. Love them, bless them, pray for them, have them over to dinner.

What an utterly evil thing to say.I'll take Jews or Hindus or Asians any day and you say it's nothing but racial prejudice that I consider Muslims dangerous to the nation because of Islam's texts which inspire suicide bombings and other forms of murder of "infidels" and the endless ambition to take the entire world for Allah? (I'm not thinking of me in particular at all, I'm thinking of the good of the nation and everybody in it).But obviously you are so biased by PC the only thing you are capable of is accusing me of racism like all the leftists.If I were a moderator I'd suspend you for a week for ad hominem attack on me.What a disgusting place this is.ABE: Besides suspending you for at least a week, I'd suspend me for blasting Hyro a few posts down, for whatever draconian length of time you think appropriate including indefinitely, and I'd also suspend Hyro for a week at least for his personal attacks on me which are, after all, against the rules.Thank you and goodbye.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

More ad hominem accusation. Couldn't occur to you that objections to PC are objective and rational, could it? Nope, just the usual low-life personal accusation. Best you can do. If you thought for half a minute perhaps you'd see that the moralizing is on the other side, not on my side. I'm complaining about the in-sane oppressive totalitarian moral indignation of the PC Left. But one thing I've noticed about you is that you don't have a very flexible or subtle mind. Pretty klutzy.

They are his neighbors, not mine, and he considers himself better than Christians so he should show it. And who says I don't act as I preach anyway? How would you know?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by AdminPhat, : fixed broken quote

deletedABE: I apologize for the namecalling. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You are right that I don't turn the other cheek as I should. When insulted I get riled instead.However, that IS a personal remark instead of a comment on the subject, and it IS against the rules.I don't consider trying to give the facts about Islam in the teeth of all the objections that are thrown at me here to be spitting on anyone. The denials of what I know about Islam and am trying to get across here are amazing. It's like trying to prove that the teddy bear everybody is cuddling is in fact a grizzly. They'll deny it and deny it until the whole country is being eaten up by grizzlies and you're still calling them teddy bears.ABE: I usually try to make a distinction between the ideology and the people, since in many cases the people don't follow the violent parts of the religion, so should have said it's Islam the ideology that's the grizzly bear, not the people.I just wanted to say that much. I am leaving EvC.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.