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Topic: Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1413 of 1639 (780577)
03-17-2016 12:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 1356 by Faith
03-15-2016 1:40 PM
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Re: Islam's agenda
Faith writes: The Jews of France who are leaving now say they've been doing fine in France until the Muslim persecutions. You are making up another story for them than the one they tell.
You're focusing on a very narrow section of time. During World War Two, for example, the French government participated enthusiastically in rounding up the Jews and shipping them off for extermination.
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 1414 by Faith, posted 03-17-2016 12:26 PM | | ringo has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1415 of 1639 (780586)
03-17-2016 12:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 1414 by Faith
03-17-2016 12:26 PM
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Re: Islam's agenda
Faith writes: They say they have been doing fine in France until recent attacks on synagogues, Jewish businesses etc., by Muslims.
And I'm saying that the Muslims may have learned their anti-Semitism from the French - who have been virulently anti-Semitic for centuries - and not from their religion. You have not established that Islam causes anti-Semitism.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1434 of 1639 (780649)
03-18-2016 12:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 1416 by Faith
03-17-2016 1:44 PM
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Re: Islam's agenda
Faith writes: I haven't done anything on this thread except try to present the truth as I know it, but somebody would like to censor it all and shut me up completely....
Pointing out where you're wrong is not censorship.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1435 of 1639 (780650)
03-18-2016 12:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 1424 by Faith
03-17-2016 10:09 PM
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Re: Islam's agenda
Faith writes: 1) They have enough inspiration from Islam itself
The fact that there's enough water in Lake Superior to drown a person is not evidence that a particular drowning victim drowned in lake Superior.
Faith writes: 2) there would have to be some active French anti-Semitic attacks to draw them into it
No, there would not have to be previous drownings in Lake Nowhere for somebody to drown in Lake Nowhere.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1451 of 1639 (780716)
03-19-2016 12:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 1449 by Faith
03-19-2016 12:02 PM
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Re: Islam's agenda
Faith writes: It is specifically the Muslims that have to be considered potential problems because they are taught by their religion not to assimilate but to seek by different means to overthrow all nonMuslim cultures.
You seem to be as ignorant of their religion as you are of your own.
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 1453 by Faith, posted 03-19-2016 12:25 PM | | ringo has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1454 of 1639 (780720)
03-19-2016 12:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 1453 by Faith
03-19-2016 12:25 PM
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Re: Islam's agenda
Faith writes: That is a staggering piece of self-delusion.
Then maybe you should sit down.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1457 of 1639 (780727)
03-19-2016 12:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 1456 by Faith
03-19-2016 12:47 PM
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Re: Do you have evidence Faith?
Faith writes: There's a ton of evidence out there and I've given lots already.
You haven't given the slightest reason for me to be afraid of my Muslim neighbours.
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 1460 by Faith, posted 03-19-2016 3:12 PM | | ringo has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1472 of 1639 (780767)
03-20-2016 2:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 1460 by Faith
03-19-2016 3:12 PM
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Re: Do you have evidence Faith?
Faith writes: ringo writes: You haven't given the slightest reason for me to be afraid of my Muslim neighbours.
Great. Love them, bless them, pray for them, have them over to dinner. And in Message 1466Faith writes: They are his neighbors, not mine...
Jesus said, in the parable of the Good Samaritan:
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Luke 10:36-37 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
Faith writes: And who says I don't act as I preach anyway?
You're preaching against all Muslims, including my good neighbours (who are also your own). I hope you're not practicing what you preach.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 1493 of 1639 (785718)
06-09-2016 12:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 1492 by Diomedes
06-08-2016 2:47 PM
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Re: Clinton is presumptive nominee
Diomedes writes: a reality TV show character
I liked his TV show but I'd probably vote for Fred Flintstone before Trump. I can't help but think of the Peter principle:
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employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."
I think Trump may have peaked in season two.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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xongsmith writes: ... Bernie has pledged to do everything he can to defeat Trump and defeat him badly.
Wouldn't pushing the Democrats to the left help Trump rather than hurt him?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Theodoric writes: Tacking to the left, as Sanders has forced the party, has exposed a huge groundswell of grass roots people powered activism. Activism that can and should show up in results in the ballot box.
Can? Should? But will it. I'm just wondering if the perception of that potential groundswell might, in fact, cause a groundswell among conservatives and right-leaning moderates.
Theodoric writes: Policies have not mad the US more conservative. Billions spent to muddy the waters, disinform and misinform the US public has made the USA more conservative.
It doesn't matter what made the US more conservative. All that matters is that it is more conservative. And I think socialist rhetoric is likely to make it even more conservative.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Lammy writes: Why not not?
It just seems obvious that in a right-leaning (understatement) nation like the US, radicalizing the left will help the right.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Theodoric writes: Why do you think a push left will move things right?
I'm asking why you think it wouldn't.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Theodoric writes: Why is it obvious? Show some support for your argument.
I'm not making an argument. I'm asking a question. If I'm in a canoe and I move to the left, I need an equal and opposite shift of weight to the right to avoid turning over. Why is it different in politics?
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