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Author Topic:   The Optimal Climate & Optimal Human Development
Coyote
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Message 2 of 10 (778476)
02-20-2016 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
02-20-2016 1:07 PM


One factor that must be taken into consideration is technology, and in that I include access to adequate forms of energy.
The less technology a group has, and the less it is able to utilize available energy, the more it is dependent on a moderate and stable climate.
Given enough technology and available energy, a group could terraform Mars and do quite well. With poor technology and low energy availability an ice age would wipe out a group pretty readily.
Within limits most modern first-world populations could handle a 3 degree increase in temperature more readily than a 3 degree drop in temperature. It is now thought that a drop in temperature around AD 535-650 due to three volcanic eruptions was one factor in the fall of the eastern Roman Empire.
Late Antique Little Ice Age may have collapsed the eastern Roman Empire | Daily Mail Online

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Message 6 of 10 (778554)
02-21-2016 12:04 PM
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02-21-2016 11:52 AM


But to the extent that development of technology mostly involves the destabilization of the climate, there is potentially a point at which the costs start to outweigh the benefits - a point at which each additional unit of technological advancement destabilizes the climate more than that unit allow us to mitigate that associated destabilization.
One of the things that could replace some sizable percentage of fossil fuels is nuclear power, but the "peacenics" some decades back made nuclear such a dirty word that research, particularly in the US, has slowed and development of new plants has largely stopped.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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