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Author Topic:   The Anti-Spirit of Christmas
NoNukes
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Message 8 of 24 (774859)
12-23-2015 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Faith
12-23-2015 5:23 PM


You can back off the vigilante self-righteous indignation.
According to the article, righteous indignation is the correct answer. The school district in question had a policy on how to handle the situation and the policy was not followed. The correct answer here is to be more aggressive with parents in collecting the debt and not to embarrass the kids while wasting the food. What interest does that serve?
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The action was a violation of the district’s procedures, district leaders told the school board this month. Some of the children’s parents weren’t previously notified that they had negative balances, and some weren’t given enough time to remedy the situation before workers took action.
Workers will never take a student’s meal away again, said district spokesman Jason Olsen.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 11 of 24 (774863)
12-23-2015 6:39 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Faith
12-23-2015 6:01 PM


It shouldn't be up to these workers. There's a bigger problem going on here.
Yes. Every poster here seems to agree that the issue should not be left up to the workers. Yet in at least one case a worker has been fired for giving away lunches. The article actually describes a good chunk of the schools problem, which is not collecting money from parents.
The school is supposed to administer the problem by collecting money, or applying for free lunch and in particular the district policy eliminates the solution that the school employed, namely throwing lunches in the trash and forcing the lunch lady or lunch dude to make that call.
I'm not sure what it is about Tanypteryx response that irks you so badly.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 19 of 24 (774893)
12-24-2015 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Percy
12-24-2015 8:42 AM


Re: Scrooge Retreats
The article reports something probably most people suspected, that not charging a student wasn't the first or only incident
I saw an interview of Dalene a few days ago. She acknowledged that she had been feeding kids illicit lunches (lol) for quite some time, and she made no apologies for doing so. As you suggest, the additional facts don't place the school or the district in any better light.
"In the spirit of the holidays..." may well be school admin speak for not wanting to be cast as the Grinch who stole Christmas.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 23 of 24 (775033)
12-26-2015 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Hyroglyphx
12-26-2015 12:37 AM


The money to pay for the school lunches has to come from somewhere, so either you increase taxes to cover additional expenses like school lunches or you make the parents pay for their children's lunch.
This issue was covered in the article. The school does a poor job of telling parents that it is time to pay for the lunch. It looks like their procedure for doing so includes not giving lunch to kids and waiting for the parents to hear a sob story from the kids. Surely that is not the way to do things.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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