With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?

I did misstate some things, but to try to set it all straight, the context was originally the Ku Kux Klan and they were Democrats. All the rest is open to correction.

Sigh. I suppose I shouldn't give in to the temptation to keep this silly topic going, but here's another attempt to review the sequence:You equated conservatives with the Ku Klux Klan. Perhaps you had a Canadian context in mind but you were talking to ME and the apparent implication was that you were linking ME, the conservative here, with the Klan. So of course I responded with the information that the first Klan was Democrats and the South was traditionally Democrats, and I am NOT in any way Klannish. Why do you want to hang that on me anyway?

I don't know why people persist in making this same mistake. I've never said that MUSLIMS think or behave alike. I'm always talking about the WRITTEN TEXTS OF ISLAM. I believe I've made this clear over and over again.Individual Muslims may believe any version or part of those texts at any given time, but the fact is that the texts are there to be believed if and when an individual Muslim for whatever reason gets "radicalized." It's ISLAM that is the subversive force. There is no way to know in the case of individual Muslims how much of Islam they believe or will believe in the future. Statistics show that a huge percentage of Muslims, most of whom would probably never commit a murderous act, nevertheless support those who do so in the name of Allah. And why? Because they are Muslims and believe that's what Allah wants.There are plenty of examples of very nice Muslims nobody would suspect of the slightest jihadi motives wno then turn out to voice support of a bloody jihadi attack, such as the one in France. It's the IDEOLOGY that must be rejected, and that means rejecting all those who say they subscribe to it, who call themselves Muslims, since there is no way to determine their potential to get radicalized, or in fact to be already radicalized since they aren't going to tell you if they are.The friend of the San Bernardino shooters who supplied them with guns said they all knew there were lots of "sleeper cells" of Muslims in America and Europe who would turn jihadi at the opportune time. You may want to play Russian roulette with the people you admit into your neighborhood. I do not. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

When you can demonstrate that what's in the Bible is a motivator to atrocities in today's world as what's in the Koran and Hadiths is, you'll have a point. Until then you haven't a clue about anything. How on earth were you ever a "Christian" if you can ask such a nonsensical question?

OH NONSENSE. Why can't anyone THINK any more? Who is talking about "association with the religion?" I'm talking about actually SUBACRIBING TO IT. Islam is pure evil, an invention of the devil, designed to murder.I don't hate anything that's in the Bible. The Bible tells me to be kind to everyone, it has absolutely nothing in common with Islam's murderous decrees by Allah. The Bible shows God judging people for their sins, it does not show mindless murder as Islam does. You're supposed to learn from the Bible that sin gets punished. SIN, not disagreement. Allah is an evil murderer. The God of the Bible judges sin. He used His ancient people in some cases for that purpose. He also often used foreign nations and natural disasters such as famines to judge His own people when they sinned. The Bible gives historical reports on these things so we will learn the wages of sin. We should also learn that nations get judged today in the same way but nobody is commanded to be the agent of such judgments as historically happened in the Bible, which after all was written to reveal to us what goes on behind the scenes. NOWHERE DOES THE BIBLE TELL ME OR ANY READER TO DO HARM TO ANYONE. BUT ISLAM DOES.The Bible tells me to be kind to everyone and especially those under God's judgment, since those are the people Jesus died for.The punishments in the Bible are there to show us that violations of God's Law deserve terrible consequences. It's a foreshadowing of Hell. But Jesus died for us so we won't get punished. That's the whole point. But people who don't think confuse that with Islam that tells its followers to go out and murder people who aren't Muslims? THINK MAN THINK.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Islam was an invention of Mohammed with the help of a demon that called itself Gabriel. This fake "Gabriel" dictated a lot of it (the way many demon-inspired religions have been dictated in our day too, such as Urantia, Course in Miracles, the Seth Books, even Mormonism through Joseph Smith's demon "Moroni."}The rest of Islam came from Mohammed's own totally confused idea of bits and pieces of both Old and New Testament religion, which he mixed up together so that you get such strange confusions as the Virgin Mary in the Old Testament and other such weird mistakes.Islam IS NOT A "DERIVATIVE" of Judeo-Christian ethics and beliefs, it's a totally made up Satanic murderous ideology. Its "ethics" couldn't be more different from the Bible.
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Sorry to get so ticked off at you but you obviously know absolutely nothing about this stuff while preaching to me about it.No, I did not become a believer in Christ the way you did. I never rejected the OT God. I love Him. \The "atrocities" are there to teach us about the wages of sin. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I give up. No it is not an "Abrahamic religion" of all the stupid claims made by the murderer Mohammed and his demon Gabriel. Yes Gabriel was a demon. Yech, I give up.

Sorry, I have no patience with this kind of ignorant total propaganda. It gives me high blood pressure/ ulcer etc. We can save the topic of the thread if you'll just go read up on Gabriel yourself. Google
I recommend skipping the Muslim propaganda.

Eh? Compare the Biblical Gabriel with Mohammed's Gabriel. They have nothing in common. (Gabriel is in both OT and NT by the way.) Hyro, I'm truly sorry to lose my temper at you but you are so extremely off course I feel hopeless about saying anything to correct you, especially since you obviously have no respect for anything I say anyway.I had assumed you really were a Christian and it's a shock to find out that can't be the case given your attitude toward God in the OT. Obviously you never were.There's a mountain of stuff you have so wrong I don't know where to begin to talk to you. Maybe if you start another thread for comparing Christianity with Islam kbertsche will come along and explain things I don't have the patience to explain. Not that you'd listen to him either but oh well.

I'm not questioning your sincerity at all. I'm saying you didn't believe the right things to be a Christian. I'm sure you sincerely believed your wrong ideas about Christianity and sincerely believe your totally wrong ideas about the Old Testament too.And it is relevant, because you get everything so completely wrong about the Bible that has to be explained to you too even to discuss why Islam is wrong.HOWEVER, this is still off topic and I'm going to TRY to stay away now.The Parable of the Sower is not necessarily talking about Christians, just about people who hear the gospel, like it but can't stick it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

tahkeeya: Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I would trust a site dedicated to exposing Islam over a site dedicated to whitewashing Islam.

There are various ways "the book" is interpreted by Islamic legal experts. And it contradicts itself. Sometimes it sounds tolerant, but most of the time it treats all nonMuslims as infidels subject to Muslim domination, and outright murder; hence all those beheadings lately. NonMuslims in Muslim countries have been subjected to heavy taxes and humiliations like being pushed off the sidewalk to let Muslims pass. Who knows how ringo's "friends" think of him? Perhaps being in a nonMuslim country that has power over them they don't want to say anything that could get them in trouble, so that would be a reason to lie about the religion.This site goes into quite a bit of detail about the principle of deception in many circumstances:Islam's doctrines of deception :: Middle East Forum Common sense should suggest extreme caution with people who believe this sort of thing.

Yes, it is very PC to pretend that Christianity is like Islam, though of course it's really quite the opposite in just about every way.I think the answer to the title of this thread can be found in this discussion, just substitute "westerners" for white race and the answer is the west is now completely suicidal, unable to tell friend from enemy, good from evil, or more accurately, defends enemy over friend and evil over good.Have a pleasant Ramadan.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

OF COURSE NOT, and I said so myself. BUT THEIR RELIGION IS, and if put to the test they would have to accept what the religion says. Why are you having so much trouble following the argument here? That is quite true. But in the case of Islam they can get beheaded if they refuse to go along with the full Islamic agenda if and when it comes to that. The Islamic leaders happily persecute Muslims as well as everybody else, if they don't toe the line. Why are you having such a problem following this argument?