Recreational Marijuana Sales Started in Oregon October 1

Funny sort of. But no wonder America is going under. If we do have enemies who want to take us over where's the resistance coming from?Offer them a toke. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yeah, OK, I get your point but I wasn't all that directly thinking of combat situations, more a general unresisting or passive mindset Americans seem to have these days in general, of which pot isn't the cause but can certainly exaggerate. At least it's an expression or symptom of passivity. Befuddlement. Lack of sense of direction. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes! TV too. Put that on the list of causes.

This is a little bizarre I'll warn you up front. At the beginning of summer when the weather got warm I started experiencing something like bugs biting my legs when I was standing in the kitchen. I thought it might be fleas from a neighbor's very friendly dog that had pushed his way in some months earlier, but I've seen fleas and I couldn't see these. My eyes are bad enough though that I wasn't sure it wasn't fleas, but nobody else could see them either. Then somebody assured me that fleas can't live in this climate. The implication was I'm imagining it all. Eventually I gave up the idea that it was fleas but I kept getting the sensation of being bitten. Then it extended to the computer area and the floor next to my bed. Was I losing my mind or what?I didn't want to use toxic insecticides even if I could identify some actual bugs which I couldn't. I started researching "natural" means of pest control. I used baking soda and salt in some places which is supposed to kill larva, and mopped the kitchen floor, but although the sensations would diminish for a while they eventually came back.In my researches online I came across people suffering from some of my symptoms -- more than just bugs jumping on legs but that was always the main one -- invisible bugs that bit but sometimes were seen -- tiny little things, specks that would appear and disappear, some black, some white.I had the same array of symptoms as many of the people who felt tormented by these sensations, who for the most part were told by friends, spouses and even doctors that they were imagining it. One guy traced his suffering to bird mites that invaded his house after he removed a bird's nest from the garage. I hoped I didn't have that but I hadn't encountered any birds. But other mites were a possibility. But mites don't jump. Maybe I had more than one bug.As I kept reading it began to seem there were too many possibilities, and they all needed their own treatment to get rid of them, and getting rid of any of them isn't easy and in some cases apparently impossible. Various kinds of mites, but they don't jump although they do get all over people; Or tiny gnats. I tried various repellents suggested by the alternative health sites, mostly crushed herbs.Then just yesterday on a discussion board about these things someone suggested considering thrips. But thrips live on plants and I don't have plants. Nevertheless I found sites discussing thrips actually jumping on people, and in many ways behaving like mites once the get on you. They are so tiny you usually can't see them, but then I remembered that I'd had some tiny little bugs crawling up my window a while back, visible because they were in the sunlight on the window. They looked like tiny little filaments, much narrower than a hair, and only about a 16th of an inch long. But I could see them crawling up the window pane. Washing the window gets rid of them and I didn't think more about them.But now I realize they could have been thrips.Most discussions of how to get rid of thrips are about getting them off plants in your garden. I don't have a garden. I don't even have an indoor plant. I wondered if the produce I've been bringing in for juices might have brought them in. But I also continued to wonder about tiny gnats and mites.Then today I ran across a website addressed to cannabis growers about how to deal with thrips that are eating up their plants.The neighbor on the other side of my kitchen wall smokes a lot of cannabis. His smoke comes into my kitchen under the sink, I suppose alongside the pipes.Is he growing the stuff as well as smoking it? Do his plants have thrips? Is he doing something to them to drive them into my place?He's on the other side of the building so I'd have to walk all the way around to talk to him.What to do?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Actually I don't have any marks, though I have lots of itchy spots. One website explained that thrips don't actually bite, they're too tiny although their poking around your skin causes the sensation of a bite, a pricking sensation, which is what I have. They don't leave a mark but they itch.

My brother got me some orthoboric acid that I have yet to try. Same thing?Can I put it on my skin?

I did think of bedbugs because I do have buggy sensations in bed too but I don't have any of the telltale red bites, just itchy spots, and besides, bedbugs don't hang out on the kitchen floor or under your computer and jump on your legs, do they? But then I couldn't think of anything but fleas that do that. Until I read this stuff about thrips. Although the description I found is the closest I've come to what I'm experiencing I'm still not absolutely sure that's what this is, though I think I should treat them as thrips until further notice.I did strongly consider tiny gnats because besides the stinging pricking sensations I also get sensations of something tiny bumping against my skin, of something flying into me. But I guess thrips could do that too.If and when I see my pot-smoking neighbor again I'll bring all this up with him. He sometimes wanders around this side of the building.I did read about a remedy called Blue Sticky Traps for thrips, not yellow, wonder what the difference is. I'm willing to try anything but I'm dependent on my brother to drive me places and get things for me these days and it may be a while before he can help with this. Meanwhile I've got the orthoboric acid and baking soda and salt and clorox and things like that.

Oh good, you aren't just an expert in dragonflies but an entomologist who would know something about this stuff. Thanks for your input.Yeah I'm aware of the delusory versions of this stuff, but after reading about all the poor people who have similar symptoms being told they're delusional I don't want to go there yet. Also there's a lot of information on mites that can cause creepy crawly sensations too, are too tiny to be seen and usually stay deep in the skin.I think the main clue will be if this problem goes away or diminishes when the weather gets cold, which should be toward the end of this month. It started when the weather warmed up so maybe it will die down with the cold weather.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It does have a warning label but a couple things keep me from taking it too seriously: one, the alternative health sites claim it is far from toxic at the usual levels it would be used, and two, it's another term for boric acid, which my parents kept in the medicine cabinet and diluted for use as an eyewash. This bottle I have isn't pure boric acid though, it has "inactive ingredients" as well, which aren't named.In any case, such a label does give me pause, so I'll wait to see if others have more to say about it.If it would kill thrips, just using it along baseboards and under the sink probably wouldn't deal with them. I'd want to use it in the computer area and next to the bed too. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The weather might have an effect here because the floors can get very cold, and I think there is a space between the walls of my apartment and the smoking neighbor's that communicates with the outside air.IF there really are bugs on the kitchen floor that are jumping on my legs I would think a cold floor would discourage them. But we'll see. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Good ideas, thanks. Want to try this and RAZD's suggestion.I have some caulking, but I can't get down on my knees any more so my brother will have to help when he can come by again.

Daughter used to bring her cat when she visited but that was years ago. But this isn't fleas because I'm convinced now that I'd see fleas and they'd leave a welt too. And as I mentioned, somebody did tell me fleas can't live in this climate. Too dry? I don't know. It is desert but then we're right up against the Sierra mountains and we know there are fleas in the mountains because there is bubonic plague in the mountains from time to time. But it's not fleas anyway.

Thanks. I wasn't going to post any more on this thread but I want to answer you:Is "boraxo" the same thing as Borax? I've looked for these things in the store but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.My brother also remembers our father using boric acid as an eyewash.I want to get the borax or boraxo and the yellow sticky traps HBD mentioned. If those traps don't catch anything THEN I'll consider that I'm hallucinating.Meanwhile, I DID see those tiny little bugs crawling up my window glass a few weeks ago, those were not invisible or hallucinated, just so tiny I wouldn't have seen them if the sun wasn't shining on the glass, and wouldn't have considered them to be alive if they hadn't been moving.I don't get out often enough even to go around the building and talk to my neighbor, but my brother is coming down next week and maybe I can get him to ask him if he's growing the stuff etc. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Well, if my neighbor is growing marijuana plants and they have thrips, since his smoke gets into my place and so presumably could tiny bugs, and that's what those tiny little hair-like bugs on my window were, then I've probably got them too and I am not hallucinating.Here's a site that describes thrips as biting humans:
Thrips: Elimination and Biology of Biting Thrip InfestationsAnd a Google page on the subject:
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I'm on topic. The topic is recreational marijuana and if my neighbor is growing it, which he must be because he wouldn't be living here if he could afford to buy the amount he smokes, this is an opportunity to discuss another side of recreational marijuana use: smoke getting into neighbors' apartments -- which fortunately doesn't bother me -- and bugs too -- which do bother me.And did you notice that there was a series of posts about how women dress on this thread that really did have nothing to do with the topic?You could get the topic back to where you want it easily enough by just posting on it instead of wasting time complaining about this little digression which would have been over if you'd ignored it.