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Author Topic:   An example of Science - For Quetzal
mike the wiz
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Message 1 of 7 (76073)
12-31-2003 6:54 PM


Recently I was asked by Quetzal, being a Creationist myself - to try to convince other Creationists that Sciences = Science. In other words we Creo's should consider that Scientific thought throughout the recent centuries has and is based on evidence and is therefore - Science.
I understand Quetzal's frustration because what he believes in, he believes in because of evidence. Recently Buzsaw has said Evolutionists have/or are "faith" based. I agree with him partially being Creationist myself BUT I do not think the TOE itself is a lie or religious.
For example, I asked about skulls when wanting to know why Evolutionists think - transitionals. I thought I would get a poor response and would be shown no evidence. I was then shown this
KNM-WT 1500
Now, although I don't come to an evolutionary conclusion myself, I do not see how this example is not Scientific. It's there in my face and it IS evidence. I think whether we like it or not we have to agree the TOE itself is Scientific. Evolutionists beware though, if you start saying this Science has/or makes our faith wrong you will indeed step out of Science and enter the realm of the opinionated. Which is NOT Scientific like the TOE>
So, when I see Science - I think I know what it is, I think Creo's should admitt evidence when it is before our eyes. If we start denying reality it cannot be a good thing. Don't forget if it wasn't for Science and those who are Scientific we would still be in the dark ages, letting spirit's out of our heads via the knife. I am grateful for Science - it saves lives, when your next ill remember that. E.G. Forensics - do we deny their evidences when there is a crime - NO.
So, it's silly to deny evidence when it's in front of you.
KNM-WT 1500? - At this moment is there a better Science to explain why or what he is, than evolution? - No. It appears the TOE does fit the facts, better than any other Science Theory - I'm not saying I believe Evolution happened, I don't - but I am not going to deny the facts seem to fit this recent Scientific Theory better than any other Theory which >is Science.
I feel sorry for those true Science Evolutionists, who ONLY have Scientific motives - and are called liars e.t.c. I commend their efforts.
This was an example of Science for Quetzal.

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mike the wiz
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Message 5 of 7 (76114)
01-01-2004 8:42 AM


Asgara and Quetzal - I think you're hitting the bingo, ofcourse hardly anyone here attacks my faith, I've realised from personal experience though that it's the "uninformed" Atheist or "layman" who seems to attack me with Science.
I thought this might go well with this thread;
http://www.surg.med.utoronto.ca/...ch/source/neanderthal.htm
Only just found the bugger!
I hope the cast is an accurate one. It is NOT KNM-WT 1500, it is ofcourse Neanderthal man. Ain't it cute?

  
mike the wiz
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Message 7 of 7 (76116)
01-01-2004 9:24 AM


Topic additions>
Neanderthal's skull for comparison with his cast.

  
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