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subbie
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Message 121 of 313 (750170)
02-11-2015 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:51 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Well, how do we tell what's biblical and what's not biblical, if not being in the bible doesn't count as unbiblical?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 122 of 313 (750171)
02-11-2015 4:53 PM
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02-11-2015 4:52 PM


Re: more misrepresentation from Faith
I'm talking mostly about misapplying the First Amendment to causes it was never intended to be applied to, such as pornography, even abortion, and gay rights.
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Message 123 of 313 (750172)
02-11-2015 4:56 PM
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02-11-2015 4:53 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
YOU wouldn't know because you know NOTHING about these things although you are determined to make others bow to your ignorance. You MIGHT have the basic respect to take what a Bible believer says seriously, but fear not, I wouldn't expect that from anybody at EvC for the Fanatically Conservative Paranoid Fundamentalist Major Nutcase Bigoted Hater "sect" of Christianity.

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Message 124 of 313 (750173)
02-11-2015 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:50 PM


Re: more misrepresentation from Faith
Faith writes:
This ridiculous revisionism that makes one religion responsible for another is totally bogus and in fact works to deprive CHRISTIANS, oddly enough not any other religion, of our First Amendment rights.
There you go flying off into fantasy land yet again.
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
What First Amendment Rights have been deprived from anyone?
Are the bakers not still free to be bigots, to worship their evil god, to think same sex marriage an abomination?
Have they been forced to marry someone of the same sex, even attend a same sex marriage?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 125 of 313 (750174)
02-11-2015 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:17 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
You don't need chapter and verse, subbie, you know very well that homosexual acts are condemned in the Bible ...
Baking a cake is a homosexual act?

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 126 of 313 (750175)
02-11-2015 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:29 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
None of that changes the fact that AMERICAN LAW followed Blackstone's Commentaries.
Evidence please.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 127 of 313 (750176)
02-11-2015 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:56 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
I know I don't know. That's why I asked you. You see, when I don't know something, I try not to just make shit up, but find out from someone who does know.
Now, care to tell me?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 128 of 313 (750177)
02-11-2015 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by nwr
02-11-2015 4:57 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Well, sometimes.
I'm pretty sure it was a gay guy who invented the bundt. I mean, just look at it! Amirite?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 129 of 313 (750178)
02-11-2015 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by subbie
02-11-2015 5:01 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
It's all there back in Message 96, you just have to READ it.

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Message 130 of 313 (750179)
02-11-2015 5:06 PM
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02-11-2015 4:57 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
I already gave the evidence. Here it is again:
The Commentaries were the original foundation for legal education in America and a work that would dominate the common law legal system for centuries.

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Theodoric
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Message 131 of 313 (750180)
02-11-2015 5:14 PM
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02-11-2015 5:06 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Now that isn't evidence is it. It is an assertion

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 132 of 313 (750181)
02-11-2015 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
02-11-2015 3:08 PM


quote:
Nazis are a minority too. So are pedophiles.
Nazis are a political grouping and rather more likely to be discriminating against then discriminated against.
Paedophiles are also not protected for good reasons.
quote:
Until very very recently even nonChristians considered homosexuality to be either sin or an aberrant condition. The idea that they are an oppressed minority is very recent and it is evil.
It may be a recent notion but it is still true, and the evil comes from denying it.
The fact that you regard homosexuality as sinful is not a reason for the government to deny homosexuals legal protection. Just as the idea that negroes are subject to the Curse of Ham, or that the Jews are plotting to destroy civilisation are not good reasons for the government to allow discrimination against them.

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Message 133 of 313 (750182)
02-11-2015 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Faith
02-11-2015 5:03 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
No. You said cake baking was bad. I pointed out there's nothing in the bible about it, you said there's nothing in the bible about the Trinity, implying that something doesn't have to be in the bible to be biblical. I asked how we can know what's biblical and what isn't if it doesn't have anything to do with actually being in the bible. You haven't answered that last question.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 134 of 313 (750184)
02-11-2015 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:52 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Yeah, but never the Supreme Court.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 135 of 313 (750186)
02-11-2015 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Faith
02-11-2015 3:07 PM


I also "discriminate" against Nazis who want a cake celebrating Holocaust Denial, and against the Klan who want a cake celebrating white superiority and against Muslims who want a cake saying Allah has no son, and the like.
Oh, M'lady, you still fail to comprehend.
I walk in and want to buy a regular chocolate cake from you without any special decorations. Do you think you have the right to ask my political affiliation before you decide if you want to sell me the cake?
A month later I come back and want to buy another chocolate cake from your shop. I want this one decorated with swastikas and storm trooper boots crushing a Star of David.
Since the decorations are considered political speech you are free per the first amendment to refuse to speak as I have asked.
Separate the cake (product) from the decoration (speech). The law is on your side.
Is this really beyond you? I do not think you are that dense.
You make wedding cakes which you offer to the public. I want to buy one. No special decorations, no special speech. So I select a good looking cake which you have for sale. Do you think you have the right to ask my sexual orientation before you decide if you want to sell me the cake?
A week later I come in to pick up the cake and I bring my boytoyfriend to come have a look at the beautiful cake I found and want for our wedding. Do you think you can refuse to sell me the selected cake because now you know my sexual orientation?
Separate the requirements of the laws against discrimination in a public business from your personal squeamish distaste of another human being. The law is on the side of the people.
How can you not see this as blatant discrimination? You want to insist that this discrimination is justifiable, which is sick but you are so entitled to think such things, but even you must acknowledge this action is blatant discrimination against another human being.
We the People have decided to protect other human beings from blatant discrimination. You fundy religious types are the ones who invented this minority you are so determined to harass. We the People have decided to protect these other human beings from you.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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