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Love is Greater than God

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ringo
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Message 29 of 38 (721564)
03-09-2014 3:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by Phat
09-18-2011 8:29 PM

Re: What is Great?
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If focus on God detracts from focus on ourselves, is not the issue one of communal selfishness versus communal selflessness?
Communal selfishness? Does that mean the community focusing on itself instead of on something external, like a spook? Isn't that loving thy neighbour?
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03-10-2014 11:38 AM 		Reply to: Message 31 by Phat
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Re: What is Great?
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So in answer to your question, loving thy neighbor is allowing the "external Spook" to flow through you unto others.
Unfortunately, reality doesn't seem to confirm your opinion. Those who believe in gods are the ones who spout pious platitudes and human-generated dogma. The ones who actually show that loving spirit flowing out from them are just as likely to be unbelievers.
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I would say, on the contrary, that gods are not capable of love. Love requires empathy and gods are no more likely to have empathy for you than you are to have empathy for a tapeworm.
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03-10-2014 12:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 35 by Phat
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In my opinion, God became man(Jesus) so that He could communicate with us.
So why isn't that communication an on-going thing? Why wouldn't God have a permanent representative on earth (like a Pope) who could actually understand humans? Why send a one-shot-wonder to "die for us"?
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03-11-2014 11:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 37 by Phat
03-11-2014 9:23 AM

Re: The flow comes from above and radiates out of ourselves
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ringo writes:
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Why wouldn't God have a permanent representative on earth...
Perhaps we are that representative....
Good point.
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