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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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One of the factors that I use to assess the acceptability of some given behaviour is whether or not everybody else could also behave the same way. Is that a flawed consideration? If everyone went to the lake and took their legally allotted amount of fish, there would probably be no more fish. Yet somehow, taking a legal amount of fish is perfectly acceptable.Why is it acceptable? Because it is unreasonable to think that everyone will show up and keep ALL the fish they can. Secondly, homosexuality is not a behavior. It is a natural state of being for some people. If everyone had downs syndrome, then the human population wouldn't do very well, either. Is having downs syndrome also unacceptable behavior?"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Why do you continue to associate homosexuality with things/activities that are unhealthy? Why don't you come out and say: I think fags are yucky and I don't like it" so we can say "ok, so then don't be gay and don't get gay married?".
Homosexuality is not unhealthy so it is nothing like eating a diet of sweets. It is nothing like doing drugs (not that there is anything wrong with drugs), being promiscuous (nothing wrong with that either) or being a rock star. Some people are attracted to the same sex. Get over it. 76 messages in and you've not supported your bigotry one iota. Now, I could see if you could back up your claim that being gay is dangerous, but you haven't. You just don't like fags and imo, your viewpoint is disgusting. I used to think you were one of the good ones. Now I realize you are as narrow minded and ignorant as the caricatureI paint of all religious idiots. Go protest the NBA with Westboro and Fred Phelps. You'd fit right in. I already made a couple signs for you: "Phat hates fags" and "Phat's god hates fags"."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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So you've given up even trying to have a discussion and are simply going to preach now? Pathetic. Can't say I'm surprised, though.
"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Its also interesting how angry people get when i point that out! In order for you to have pointed something out, you would have to state a fact. Stating your belief isn't pointing anything out. Second: who is angry? Why is that you religionites think any argument against your position is automatically done out of anger or that someone who disagrees with your arcane views is angry?
As for having a discussion, im still open, hooah...why would anything change based on what I asserted? Then you would do well to do less preaching and more backing up of your arguments with evidence. You aren't having a discussion, you are preaching. The message Oni replied to had NOTHING to do with the topic. It was some weird statement of your beliefs about your imaginary friend. Aren't you supposed to be convincing us that you aren't a bigot? You aren't doing so well. You seem to just be digging your heels in further and sticking your head deeper in the sand."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Funny, then, that your last 6 messages (at least) have been about fucking jesus, blow jobs as idolatry and yet another about human egos or something. How is that biblical "evidence" that you aren't a bigot? All you've had to do is say (like I already pointed out): "I think gays are yucky". We could say "then don't be gay (you don't have a choice)" or "don't get married to a man".
OR pull out that bible of yours and point to the verse where god says "gays are bad, mmkay? You should discriminate against them". Oh wait, you tried that and it fell flat because non-asshole christians (even the atheists here) showed you that your reading is wrong. The only person that agrees with your backwards ass reading is Faith. Think about that for a bit. Then, you could go picket with Fred Phelps. Don't want to do that? Don't agree with them? Prove it. Otherwise, your actions (based on arguments you actually are making) show you to be just as bigoted and hateful. Peronally? i think you are actually gay and are fighting your natural urges. Usually works out that way. You really do come off afraid of natural urges with how you demonize anything sex related. "Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Pretty sure "watered down messages that have nothing to do with scripture" includes posting pictures of things that are untrue and miscategorize the group of people you claim to belong to. I mean really, break down every one of these into your own version, in your own argument and back it up with evidence.
"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Quite simply, Jesus Christ. Humans have no capability to judge each others behaviors apart from Christ. even our vaunted logic, reason, and reality is meaningless without Christ. Funny, then, that you hate gays since that guy never said a word about them but DID say a lot about not judging and loving your neighbor. Second: don't you see the hypocrisy in you saying this a mere few messages after you post a picture with the sole intent of judging other christians?
I see ample evidence that those characterizations are quite true...at least in the church in America. Yet, you provide none. Then, you go on to use the bible as historical evidence for how "early believers" were treated and acted? Really? You realize we have actual contemporary evidence of that time period, right? And yet again, we have a long ass winded message from Phat where you just state your belief in your imaginary buddy jesus and do nothing to even attempt to support your bigotry. Instead, you write a bunch of empty platitudes that mean nothing. For example:
quote: Odd that the most religious states in America fair the worst, are the poorest and most obese and require the most assistance."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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1) In regards to the term Christian who gets to categorize them? What's that saying? Oh yea: "judge not lest ye be judged". Didn't some jesus dude say that? Anyways...My opinion is that you categorize yourself if you so choose. Who are you to categorize others?
Can non Christians categorize Christians? If you claim to be christian, you're christian. That's about as far as I go when actually categorizing you lot. If you have beliefs contra to what it usually means to be a christian, I may call you a goofy christian or a christian unlike any others I've encountered.
In short, what is the standard that can or should be used from which to properly categorize another group unlike ones own? The standard of: don't categorize people? You've crossed the border from "categorizing" into discriminating and baseless judging on a number of points in this thread alone.
My argument is that the Word of God is the standard by which to compare. And that makes you different from every other religious person.....how? Fred and Shirley Phelps say the exact same thing. You're dangerously similar to them. It's your translation of it that is under question here.
in regards to your accusation as to untruth and "miscategorization", I ask you again...according to whose standard? The standard of knowing that words or phrases are factually incorrect. There need not be some "standard" from which to say: "yep, that is a miscategorization and an untruth". That is unless your deity of choice is a trickster and you admit this."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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