Is God good?

I am a Protestant, get used to it. I actually have read the Bible, Faith.And it STILL has nothing to do with the topic but it does come just a few chapters before Jesus admits he is neither good or perfect.

Commentaries are not the Bible.

Actually Faith, I think once again you are misrepresenting stuff. The quotes and references I posted in this thread were the actual Bible Quotes. They were not commentary except perhaps the link to the Preface of the 1611 King James Bible.You also continue to imply that I am not a Protestant even though I am a member of a Protestant Chapter of Club Christian.As I said back in Message 412: Note that last line since it's actually on topic. Jesus said that Jesus was neither perfect or good.

Adolph Hitler thought it was his Christian Duty to kill the Jews.But that has NOTHING to do with whether God is good.

More bullshit and misrepresentation from you Faith, I did not interpret anything, I simply quoted what the Bible said.As I said back in Message 412: Yes, you are flat out repeating falsehoods when you say that I am not a Protestant.; you are knowingly repeating falsehoods. Actually that is a good reference that you once again misrepresent. Here it is in context. Now where in there does Jesus imply that he is God? What he is saying is that to have salvation you need to do things.

But that is NOT Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution or have anything to do with Darwin's Theory of Evolution and certainly nothing to do with whether or not God is good?It's amazing to me that those of you who claim to be Biblical based don't respond to the actual topic.The Bible has passages that says God is good. It also has passages that says God is an evil murderous tyrant.The response you folk should be posting is that the Bible supports both positions, that God is good and God is evil.

Faith, I quoted Jesus. I did not interpret anything. Which of us is doing the interpretation? According to the author of Matthew did it say what I quoted?

Hitler not only thought exterminating the Jews was good, he thought that exterminating the homosexuals, intellectuals, Serbs, Russians and a whole bunch of others was good.Had the Conquest of Canaan actually happened, then there would be no difference between the behavior of the God in that fable and Hitler. Had the Biblical Flood actually happened the only difference between that God and Hitler would be in orders of magnitude of evil.

If you believe the stories of the Biblical Flood, of Joshuah, of the Exodus are actually true (and there is overwhelming evidence they are not factual) then those Gods are far more vile and evil than Hitler.In the case of the flood myths there is the absurd claim that all people other than one family were wicked and so deserved to be killed. But wait, there's more. (I can just hear the infomercial) ... all the animals and plants except the select few were also deemed wicked and so killed off.In the case of Joshuah it is even worse. The God character announces that certain lands belong to HER people and so sets about doing ethic cleansing on a grand scale.But the most evil God in those stories has to be the one found in the Exodus myth. That God intentionally hardens Pharaoh's heart repeatedly just so IT can show off.The reason Protestant Christians such as myself continue to speak out on this subject is laid out above, the God you are trying to market is evil and unworthy of even my respect, much less any worship.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

If Darwin's theory inspired Hitler were true, (and you have offered no evidence that it was true), it is still irrelevant to the topic and if the stories you claim were true really were true then the God you try to market is a far greater villain and far more evil than Hitler anyway.As I pointed out in Message 478:

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If you believe the stories of the Biblical Flood, of Joshuah, of the Exodus are actually true (and there is overwhelming evidence they are not factual) then those Gods are far more vile and evil than Hitler.

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In the case of the flood myths there is the absurd claim that all people other than one family were wicked and so deserved to be killed. But wait, there's more. (I can just hear the infomercial) ... all the animals and plants except the select few were also deemed wicked and so killed off.

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In the case of Joshuah it is even worse. The God character announces that certain lands belong to HER people and so sets about doing ethic cleansing on a grand scale.

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But the most evil God in those stories has to be the one found in the Exodus myth. That God intentionally hardens Pharaoh's heart repeatedly just so IT can show off.

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The reason Protestant Christians such as myself continue to speak out on this subject is laid out above, the God you are trying to market is evil and unworthy of even my respect, much less any worship.

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But so far you have presented no evidence other than unsupported assertion that any of God's acts of judgement were justified in any way and in fact, the three I pointed out to you are definitely not justified in the stories.For example the God in the Exodus myth is simply wagging It's dick to show that It had a bigger dick than Pharaoh's Gods according to the story. When Pharaoh agrees to let the Hebrews go and then God hardens his heart, how is that in any way justice?

And so you cannot support your assertion that the God found in Exodus, Joshuah and the Flood myths is not even more evil than Hitler it seems.Have you ever read the Bible?

Yet you never tried to explain how the Gods found in Joshuah, Exodus or the Flood myths could be considered good if those stories were true.

What utter nonsense. Sorry but your father was just pulling your leg and funning you.Even your father had to be bright enough to know that many parts of Africa were not just familiar to Italians, they were Italian Colonies.And even that has nothing to do with the topic.If you accept the Bible stories as being factual then the God found in the Flood myths and in Joshuah and in Exodus is still every bit as evil as Hitler.

I deny that there was ever a flood as described in the Biblical myths. I seriously doubt that Noah ever even lived.There is lots of evidence the Exodus also never happened as described in the Bible or that the Conquest of Canaan ever happened as described in Joshuah.But IF anyone ever accepted the stories as being literal or factual, then yes, the God described would be guilty of ethnic cleansing in the case of Joshuah and the Biblical Flood stories and of just being a vicious jerk in the case of the Exodus myth.They are simply cultural myths and should not be considered as anything else. For example the Exodus story in particular is written just like the weekly two reeler shown in the theaters when I was a kid and the soap operas of today. It was written to keep the audience waiting to see what happened the next night and so the story teller got food and lodging for yet another day.