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Tangle
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Message 1 of 11 (665132)
06-08-2012 3:01 PM


I've recently spent quite a lot of time spectating on creationist forums trying to properly understand their arguments. They all have several big hitters that have researched and rehearsed their positions and are, at least superficially, credible.
They all have a similar problem to EVC in that they are populated by creationists with only a smattering of atheists so that when an atheist does present an argument he's dogpiled and suffocated in the same way that creationists complain about here. So, I had a thought....
How about arranging a some joint discussions, our team versus theirs, home and away?
That way it would be a fair fight with common rules and joint moderation. If it was possible to do technically, I think it would make for a good spectator spectacle too, attracting lurkers from both sides of the argument.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

  
Tangle
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Message 5 of 11 (665172)
06-09-2012 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Taq
06-08-2012 3:13 PM


Re: Count me in
Yes, I was banned from evolutionary fairy stories site within about 48 hours and without warning. It seems that they prefer to preach rather than debate - although they say the opposite.
But it's fascinating to read the posts there - in many respects it's a mirror image of EVC with all the same complaints but in reverse.
.....tumbleweed...blowing......
No evolutionist responses...
Its ironic that when confronted with a real and serious contradiction with evolution that people turn tail and hide...
This is the "head in sand" mentality that really frustrates me, since if people claim to be scientists then they MUST be open to all ideas and investigate all loop holes and contradictions in order to define, expand or correct an idea, hypothesis or theory. Failure to do so renders that person or group of persons literally unscientific.
Science is much more than just using data. It is about a state of mind, taking a neutral stance on everything, (which is nigh impossible to do), and being willing to admit that your initial hypothesis is wrong if the data doesn't fit. Following the data, and just the data, is a very basic but important aspect. It is a shame that evolution deviates from this.
They don't get answers because those qualified to answer are randomly banned when they try to.
So it seems to me, that if we and they really do wish to bash this out properly we need to meet as teams somehow.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Tangle
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Message 7 of 11 (665331)
06-12-2012 4:24 AM


Not interested Percy? Ron, the Admin at Evolutionary Fairy Tales really needs arguing with on open ground.
(I doubt he's be happy giving up equivocation dictatorship but worth a try I reckon)

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Tangle
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Message 10 of 11 (665367)
06-12-2012 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Percy
06-12-2012 8:23 AM


This is the chap. He really is very fond of himself. His bio is provided in full, up front in every post.
Ron
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6,148 posts
Gender:Male
Location:Johnstown, PA
Interests:I enjoy playing, composing and recording music, and writing poetry and lyrics. I play electric and acoustic guitars, bass guitars, drums and percussion.
I’m an avid reader, and enjoy history (especially ancient history), philosophy, technical literature that lends itself to practical applications, science fiction and science fact, world religion (especially Judeao-Christian), debate transcripts, and anything concerning all phases of Christian Apologetics (Philosophical, Historical, scientific etc).
I’m an avid hunter, enjoy shooting various weapons, and reload various calibers of hand-gun and rifle cartridges. I used to be into archery, but don’t really have the time for it anymore.
I’m retired Military, and currently work as a Technical Instructor/Curriculum Developer with over twenty-seven years of technical experience with testing and application of various system applications.
I currently have two pre-grad degrees, and am in the process of pursuing simultaneous post-grad degrees.
Age: 51
Christian
Creationist
Johnstown, PA

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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