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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 19 of 89 (643215)
12-05-2011 4:54 PM


is this for hippies only?
I don't see how consumerism is that bad, but I also don't think I know very many people who are consumerists.
Happiness for me is a bowl loaded with dank, and a 6lb largemouth on the line, as i sit in a chair on the lake.
Sure I have a bunch of lures, hooks, plastics, and a few rods, but it's not because of my desire to buy fishing equipment, its because of my desire to catch fish.

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Artemis Entreri 
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From: Northern Virginia
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Message 40 of 89 (643309)
12-06-2011 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by ICANT
12-05-2011 6:26 PM


Re: Where do we Take it from Here?
ICANT writes:
Do you have any debt? If so you spend more than your income.
That is being overly simplistic. Credit is necessary for purchasing power and validity in a market. When the United States was born, John Adams traveled Europe begging for loans for the USA so we could establish a credit line. I believe it was the Dutch (Kingdom of the Netherlands), who finally gave us a loan.
You can have debt from a loan and not spend more than your income. In 2004 I purchased a 1994 Ford Tarus for $2800. My salary back then was $40,000 per year. I did not have $2800 on me, so I borrowed $3000 from my bank, and paid the bank back $100/month (for 3 years) till I covered the loan and the interest (in total I spent $3600 for that 3k loan). I technically was in debt but not due to spending more than my income. I was living within my means, yet I still needed to borrow money to make a purchase, and also to gain credit, so I could borrow money in the future.
crashfrog writes:
So people shouldn't take on a mortgage or student loans to pay for college? Even if doing so is likely to earn them much more money in the long run?
That makes no sense. Debt is a good thing if used appropriately - to make investments in yourself and your family that will pay for themselves and then some, in the long run. But the year that you buy a home is necessarily a year in which you've "spent more than your income". Should nobody be able to buy a home but the very rich? I can't believe you believe that, or live like that.
Word.
No shit. If this guy was in charge I would have never gone to college, or purchased the last 4 automobiles that I bought. I would have no credit, and no job. ICANT, I can’t defend that position at all.
Edited by Artemis Entreri, : copy paste failboat

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