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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
This creationist sees the k-t line as the flood line. That is that all sedimentary rock and fossils therein are from the collection and deposition of the flood year. The rocks and fossils above this from events a few centuries after the flood.
How do you explain the dating?In fact the acceptance of the k-t line in modern geology and biology has been a great gain to yec creationism or many of us. they did the work to demonstrate a great sudden change in fauna and flora on earth from a disaster. We just know it was a flood disaster and not a rock from space. The K-T is about 65.5 million years ago and biblical scholars place the flood ca. 4,350 years ago. That's a pretty large boo-boo to explain away. Second, where is your evidence for modern fossils in those pre K-T deposits? We find a lot of dinosaurs and such, but we don't find all the species that have existed during the past several thousand (or even million) years. Until you can explain the progression of fossils, both fauna and flora, in the geological strata since the K-T event, and reconcile that with the dating, you have a disproved hypothesis. Add: Here is a reference to an article detailing the geologic column.
The Geologic Column and its Implications for the Flood, by Glenn Morton. This will help with the dating as well. Edited by Coyote, : Add link Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4176 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Robert Byers writes: it was just a side comment.Anyways. This creationist sees the k-t line as the flood line. That is that all sedimentary rock and fossils therein are from the collection and deposition of the flood year., The rocks and fossils above this from events a few centuries after the flood. In fact the acceptance of the k-t line in modern geology and biology has been a great gain to yec creationism or many of us. they did the work to demonstrate a great sudden change in fauna and flora on earth from a disaster. We just know it was a flood disaster and not a rock from space. I would love to see some evidence to support what you Know to be true. Please provide me with some links or site something I can look into for myself, instead of sounding like a broken record. Also see msg 313
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4176 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Robert Byers writes: it was just a side comment.Anyways. This creationist sees the k-t line as the flood line. That is that all sedimentary rock and fossils therein are from the collection and deposition of the flood year., The rocks and fossils above this from events a few centuries after the flood. In fact the acceptance of the k-t line in modern geology and biology has been a great gain to yec creationism or many of us. they did the work to demonstrate a great sudden change in fauna and flora on earth from a disaster. We just know it was a flood disaster and not a rock from space. I would love to see some evidence to support what you Know to be true. Please provide me with some links or site something I can look into for myself, instead of sounding like a broken record. Also see msg 313
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
Robert, please begin supporting your conclusions with the evidence leading to those conclusions. Right now this means providing the evidence that leads to the conclusion that the k-t line represents Noah's flood.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Robert Byers writes: it was just a side comment.Anyways. This creationist sees the k-t line as the flood line. That is that all sedimentary rock and fossils therein are from the collection and deposition of the flood year., The rocks and fossils above this from events a few centuries after the flood. In fact the acceptance of the k-t line in modern geology and biology has been a great gain to yec creationism or many of us. they did the work to demonstrate a great sudden change in fauna and flora on earth from a disaster. We just know it was a flood disaster and not a rock from space. Please explain how the Biblical Flood isolated and deposited iridium. Please explain why no other flood isolates and selectively deposits iridium. Edited by jar, : appalin spallin Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Another problem that needs to be addressed: A lot of creationists place the flood not at the K-T boundary but at the Cambrian. Hmmmmm.
Maybe they should get their story straight before trying to tell scientists what is going on, eh? One example:
Young age creationists have had a very logical explanation of the Cambrian fossils for a long time, that they are creatures buried in Noah's Flood. Review of Darwin's Dilemma (DVD), by Wayne Spencer (creationanswers.net). Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Well, see they have a problem. If they put the flood at a particular geological horizon, then we can divide sedimentary rocks into pre- and post-flood, the pre-flood rocks either being deposited by normal processes before the flood or magicked into existence In The Beginning. But then they'd face the awkward question of why pre-flood rocks have the same sedimentology as rocks produced by a magic flood; also why the pre-flood rocks contain fossils when so many creationists insist that fossils require a magical catastrophe for their formation. Though I'm not sure that all that many of them have thought about it that carefully.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4220 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Evidently to the YECs, the Cambrian, Ordovician, Silurian, Devonian, Carboniferous, Permian, Triassic, Jurassic & Cretaceous are all the same thing.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4220 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Do they ever think things out? They come up with one idea to answer one problem and create several other problems in the process.
Edited by bluescat48, : ytpo There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Do they ever think things out? They come up with one idea to answer one problem and create several other problems in the process. The problem is that creationists KNOW THE ANSWER! The details what we scientists concern ourselves with don't matter much, as no matter what details we come up with the ANSWER remains the same. Accordingly, creationists aren't much concerned with those details. 4,350 years ago? K-T boundary? Cambrian? What's 500+ million years, anyway? Five orders of magnitude? Who cares? But this nonsense has no business trying to pass itself off as science. It is the exact opposite! Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4220 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
The problem is that creationists KNOW THE ANSWER! Unfortunately, when one asks them what the answer is, one gets gobbledigook. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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b.r. bloomberg  Suspended Member (Idle past 4774 days) Posts: 14 Joined: |
obviously you do not understand the continuity of the scriptuers
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b.r. bloomberg  Suspended Member (Idle past 4774 days) Posts: 14 Joined: |
your concept of time and what god means in genesis with respect to time are at odds,i suggest you devote yourself to trying to understand just what does god mean
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b.r. bloomberg  Suspended Member (Idle past 4774 days) Posts: 14 Joined: |
if that is what you want,but what is the truth about your life
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b.r. bloomberg  Suspended Member (Idle past 4774 days) Posts: 14 Joined: |
the question is what does god mean when the scriptures use the word "water",not what you think!
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