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Topic: Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 376 of 657 (603571)
02-05-2011 12:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 375 by ringo
02-05-2011 11:56 AM
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Re: Buzsaw To All:
ringo writes: Buzsaw writes: Btw, the clip which I provided shows Mollar's scientific method of falsification. He researched the Red Sea topography in the region of the long acclaimed traditional Mt Sinai, finding it much deeper and more rugged, lacking any corroborative evidence.
Even if that was true, it isn't a falsification. There's nothing in the Biblical account that suggests a "land bridge". There's nothing about the depth of the water at all. Making up a fictional shallow spot does nothing but diminish the extent of the miracle. God could have given the Israelites a dry path through the Mariana Trench if He wanted to. In fact the Gulf of Suez is actually very shallow with an average depth of about 40 feet and a maximum depth less than 100 feet. The Gulf of Aqaba though has an average depth of over 2600 feet and a maximum depth of over 6000 feet.
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Message 380 of 657 (603631)
02-06-2011 9:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 377 by Percy
02-06-2011 8:02 AM
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Taking Chariots down the wall of the Grand Canyon
Percy writes: jar writes: In fact the Gulf of Suez is actually very shallow with an average depth of about 40 feet and a maximum depth less than 100 feet. The Gulf of Aqaba though has an average depth of over 2600 feet and a maximum depth of over 6000 feet. I don't know about the Gulf of Suez, but while researching this topic I read somewhere that the Gulf of Aqaba is an extension of the Great Rift Valley, so it makes sense that it's deep. Isn't it also deep at the Nuweiba site? Not where Mollart was diving, but doesn't it get very deep a bit further from shore? Isn't there really no sign of a "land bridge"? --Percy Not only is there no sign of a "land bridge", not only is it over 850 meters (about a half MILE) deep, it is a relatively narrow area. That means that the slope would be extreme; even with all of the water gone it would be like climbing down into a canyon; not at all the terrain that is suitable for chariots. That is why Buz makes up his fantasy sand bar. He needs to build a magic bridge that the people could walk across and that the Pharaoh might be dumb enough to also try. The Nuweiba site is simply not credible from any point of view. It does not match the descriptions in the Bible and it is not a place where any general would take chariots; it's only value is that it sells videos. Edited by jar, : fix subtitle
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Message 395 of 657 (603965)
02-09-2011 8:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 383 by Buzsaw
02-08-2011 11:52 PM
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Re: Taking Chariots down the wall of the Grand Canyon
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: Percy writes: jar writes: In fact the Gulf of Suez is actually very shallow with an average depth of about 40 feet and a maximum depth less than 100 feet. The Gulf of Aqaba though has an average depth of over 2600 feet and a maximum depth of over 6000 feet. I don't know about the Gulf of Suez, but while researching this topic I read somewhere that the Gulf of Aqaba is an extension of the Great Rift Valley, so it makes sense that it's deep. Isn't it also deep at the Nuweiba site? Not where Mollart was diving, but doesn't it get very deep a bit further from shore? Isn't there really no sign of a "land bridge"? --Percy Not only is there no sign of a "land bridge", not only is it over 850 meters (about a half MILE) deep, it is a relatively narrow area. That means that the slope would be extreme; even with all of the water gone it would be like climbing down into a canyon; not at all the terrain that is suitable for chariots. That is why Buz makes up his fantasy sand bar. He needs to build a magic bridge that the people could walk across and that the Pharaoh might be dumb enough to also try. The Nuweiba site is simply not credible from any point of view. It does not match the descriptions in the Bible and it is not a place where any general would take chariots; it's only value is that it sells videos. You're assuming that the mighty rush of water would have caused no erosion of a larger delta from the wadi canyon and that nothing changed during the event and over the millennia since the event from shipping and currents, earth quakes etc. Isn't the severe drop off in depth at the end of the delta unusual for deltas? What delta. There is no delta at Nuwebia, there is no evidence that there ever was a delta at Nuwebia. And yes Buz, geologists could tell if there had been a delta there. What happens leaves evidence, and that is the crux of the matter. You continue to either present NO evidence or to misrepresent the evidence that does exit.
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Message 397 of 657 (603969)
02-09-2011 9:49 AM
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Reply to: Message 391 by Buzsaw
02-09-2011 8:32 AM
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To Debate Evidence there must first BE some evidence.
Buzsaw writes: Admin writes: Buzsaw writes: You're assuming that the mighty rush of water would have caused no erosion of a larger delta from the wadi canyon and that nothing changed during the event and over the millennia since the event from shipping and currents, earth quakes etc. Isn't the severe drop off in depth at the end of the delta unusual for deltas? Before discussing the mechanisms by which the land bridge could have disappeared, please present evidence that the land bridge was ever there in the first place. There would, of course, be no way of imperically proving that there was a more tapered off delta at some time in the past. Nor can it be assumed that it was not. I asked a question. Why the sudden drop off of the delta? Isn't that unusual for deltas? We know that the rock above and below the delta does not extend out into the sea. This may be indicative that a deep delta was at some period created by wash out when the wadi canyon was formed. Given that the corroborating evidence cited has not been imperically refuted, it cannot be assumed that there was, for sure, never ever a delta extending further out into the sea. Stop for just one minute and think. It is not necessary to empirically refute evidence that simply isn't there. You have not shown any evidence that there are any chariot wheels. You have not shown any evidence that there was a sand bar or delta. You have not shown any evidence that there was any Altar of the Golden Calf. You have not shown any evidence that there was some waterway from a split rock. You have not shown any evidence that there was a burned mountain. You have not shown any evidence that the Biblical Exodus ever happened. In fact, you have not shown any evidence at all. All you have as "corroborating evidence" is a continuing list of unsupported assertions. Guess what? No matter how long a list of fantasies you present, the result is only a list of fantasies. Lack of evidence can be a valid refutation of a claim. If someone claims that a bullet hit the target, there should be a hole. We looked at the target and there is no hole. Edited by jar, : appalin spallin
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Message 403 of 657 (604073)
02-09-2011 11:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 400 by Buzsaw
02-09-2011 10:46 PM
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Re: Evidence
Buzsaw writes: jar writes:
Stop for just one minute and think. It is not necessary to empirically refute evidence that simply isn't there. You have not shown any evidence that there are any chariot wheels. Lennart Moller who sees the forms as evidence is a widely acclaimed prestigious marine scientist having significant credentials. He is no crackpot or fraudulent deceiver.
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Lennart Mller is from Sweden. He is a research scientist in the field of medicine and DNA-research. Dr. Mller has studied a number of subjects (limnology, marine biology, toxicology, chemistry) at the Universities of Uppsala and Stockholm and has a doctors degree in medicine from the Karolinska Institutet (KI). KI (established 1810) is the medical university of Stockholm (Karolinska Institutet - ett medicinskt universitet) and one of the leading international medical universities. The faculty decides about the Nobel Prize in Medicine. Lennart Mller has been at KI since 1982 and holds a position as professor (which in Sweden is the highest academic level, in other countries professor indicate a university teacher). Mller is head of the Research Laboratory of Analytical Toxicology and the professorship is in environmental medicine. The research is international to its character with collaborations with many different universities around the world. Mller has been lecturing in, collaborating with and visiting many international universities and has in total traveled in more than 60 countries. In addition to the normal work for a scientist, to publish scientific articles, Dr. Mller has published a number of books. The books are in subjects like theology, ethics, cancer, urban air, environmental medicine, archeology and scientific images (see "Other Books" on this web site). The books are published by publishing houses like The Swedish Environmental Protection Agency, The Swedish Cancer Society, Prevent, Cordia, EFS, Scandinavia Publishing House, Karolinska University Press and international publishers of the different translations. Under the heading "Other Books" images of the cover of books are shown and for three books web sites are available. The different books are published in seven different languages and there are further translations ongoing
This credentialed scientist figured the evidence warranted all of the expense and time he spent to do the exploratory research. He accomplished about as much as the renowned Robert Ballard accomplished with his acclaimed discovery of flood evidence in the Black Sea, being the photography. Both had some corroborative evidence supportive to their hypotheses relative to the respective phenomena researched. Sorry Buz but that is simply not true. Mller has not done anything similar to what Ballard has done. He has NOT documented a single finding.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: You have not shown any evidence that there was a sand bar or delta. Debatable. No Buz, it is NOT debatable. You have shown NO evidence that there ever was a sand bar. To claim that you have is simply false.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: You have not shown any evidence that there was any Altar of the Golden Calf. I'm not aware that there should be an alter as per the Biblical account. The golden calf was what the people worshiped. The evidence I cited was the hoofed animals inscribed in the rock in the area which fits the Biblical account. These inscriptions suggest that something was going on relative to cattle at some time. Again, this, standing by itself would be of little value as evidence. I'm sorry Buz but again, there is not a single inscription on the rock of a calf. To claim that there is is simply false.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: You have not shown any evidence that there was some waterway from a split rock. Jar, you should be ashamed to even go there, given the strawman you peddled as evidence. You should be ashamed that I had to show what you failed to show from the angle which your image was taken. You should be ashamed that you failed to refute my valid argument that there was indeed evidence of a water flow. Have you forgotten my valid point that fragmented pieces of the split rock, void of a water flow, would have fallen in a random pile in and around the crack, rather than forming a relatively smooth bed of eroded small fragments protruding forth from the crack indicative of a water flow? You and the pack failed to refute that valid point of mine. Your strawmen examples of a common creek bed of rounded smooth stones no way resembled what should match a fragmented rock phenomena. It is obvious that you don't read YOUR cites any more than the Bible. The pictures I used were ones presented by the people claiming that it was the rock of Horab. And again, to claim there is any sign of a water way is simply false.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: You have not shown any evidence that there was a burned mountain. Though the mountain having a dark top is debatable, it does not stand alone but is supportive to the other cited evidence. Buz, you presented NO evidence that there is some burned moutain. To claim that you did is simply false.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: You have not shown any evidence that the Biblical Exodus ever happened. Debatable. No Buz, it is not debatable. To claim that you have presented any evidence is simply false.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: In fact, you have not shown any evidence at all. LoL. In 14 pages you and the pack have not empirically falsified scientist Mollar's hypothesis regarding this phenomena. Mller (note the spelling} presented no evidence. I doubt that you even know what evidence is.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: All you have as "corroborating evidence" is a continuing list of unsupported assertions. Guess what? No matter how long a list of fantasies you present, the result is only a list of fantasies. Says the dogged skeptic, who wouldn't ever admit to any, regardless of how much is cited. Btw, you failed to mention some of the ducks in my row. Sorry but your ducks are all dead ducks.
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: Lack of evidence can be a valid refutation of a claim. If someone claims that a bullet hit the target, there should be a hole. We looked at the target and there is no hole. Take off the dark glasses and look objectively. Again Buz, Stop and think. You claimed there was a sand bar but presented no evidence. You claimed there was a calf altar, but presented no evidence. You claimed there was a water way, but presented no evidence. What does is the word for someone that always tells falsehoods?
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Message 415 of 657 (604211)
02-10-2011 2:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 407 by Buzsaw
02-10-2011 1:09 AM
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Re: Same Ole Jar-gon
Buzsaw writes: You claimed there was a calf altar, but presented no evidence. Jar, copy and pasting repeatedly the same ole is a waste of bandwidth and contributes nothing edifying. You need to show where I ever claimed there was a calf alter in any Exodus thread before repeatedly alleging that I did. You've spun that up from whole cloth. Worshipping an idol does not necessarily constitute setting up an alter. I am not aware of anything in the Biblical account that says there was a golden calf alter perse. Even if there were ever one, Moses, being exceedingly angry at the sheeple would have destroyed it along with the golden calf. Go figure. Beginning with Message 41 you claimed that:
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No golden calf was found that I'm aware of. What was found were these inscrptions at an alter site at the foot of Mt. Jabal el Lawz, the real Mt Sinai where it should be, Midian in Arabia. These inscriptions depict the golden calf.
Here are the pictures with an arrow pointing to the section where Ron Wyatt doctored the image to claim that it was Egyptian influenced depiction of Calf worship.
Here is the image Ron Wyatt doctored.
and here are more closeups of the rock in question.
Perhaps you can tell us where a "calf" is depicted on the rock?
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jar
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Re: Same Ole Jar-gon
Catholic Scientist writes: You mean how a portion of it has been highlighted by greying out the surrounding area? Is that what he meant!? I read it as him saying that Wyatt changed the content somehow, not just highlighting it. But you might be right... I was referring to him using the technique called burning to alter the contents as described in my post at Message 25.
If you look at the images on the rock you can see that not only are they two separate images and unrelated, the human one has a classic phallus which was burned out.
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Message 421 of 657 (604266)
02-10-2011 5:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 420 by Percy
02-10-2011 4:56 PM
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Re: Same Ole Jar-gon
Percy writes: jar writes: If you look at the images on the rock you can see that not only are they two separate images and unrelated,... They're so close together that they look related to me, sort of like a man milking a cow.
...the human one has a classic phallus which was burned out. I can't see any phallus in the image in the un-retouched photo, if the one pointed to by the red arrow is the one you mean:
--Percy That's the one. I had a higher resolution of it at one time and still trying to find it. The phallus is just below the red arrow between the human figure and the front legs and is also the figure eight on it's side like burn in the doctored photo.
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Message 428 of 657 (604323)
02-11-2011 9:14 AM
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Reply to: Message 422 by Buzsaw
02-10-2011 11:36 PM
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Re: Same Ole Jar-gon
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: If you look at the images on the rock you can see that not only are they two separate images and unrelated, the human one has a classic phallus which was burned out. I don't see why all of the tado over the images. I don't dig that anything has been altered just because the little man was carved out. A different person may have came in from the camp and added the man. Who knows? This is a big fuss about little of consequence. My point was only that animals were in the camp and there was a golden calf worshiped. So far as I'm aware, the scripture doesn't give any details about just how the worship was done. If any alter was involved Moses would have destroyed it. The images plus the fact that the mountain is guarded says something about there being some significant activity there at some point in time. Imo, you're not helping your weak arguments at all nor are you diminishing my points. I've said about all I have that will satisfy Admin or any of you people. You all had your minds set at the OP message. You all will go on from here and repeat your lies to the www unceasingly that Buzsaw has never ever cited one iota of evidence for the Biblical Exodus. Some will read this thread and disagree with you: some with me. I see some ratings which show that one or some agreed with me at least. If I can enlighten one or more, I'm happy. It's worth the time and effort. May the truth prevail.  The point is that Ron Wyatt falsified the data, used the photographic burn technique to alter the images and to make it look as though that one image was of some greater significance than any other images on the rock. He did not present all the evidence, only the evidence that he thought supported his fantasy and even then he altered it so that the human figure was not seen as a phallic symbol. The fact is that there is not a single "calf" depicted anywhere on the rock. Nor is there any indication that it is or ever was some altar. In addition, there is no evidence that it is in anyway guarded.
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Message 431 of 657 (604327)
02-11-2011 10:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 430 by Buzsaw
02-11-2011 10:51 AM
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Re: Evidence Or Not?
Buz, in Message 41 did you or did you not say:
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No golden calf was found that I'm aware of. What was found were these inscrptions at an alter site at the foot of Mt. Jabal el Lawz, the real Mt Sinai where it should be, Midian in Arabia. These inscriptions depict the golden calf.
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Message 434 of 657 (604331)
02-11-2011 11:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 433 by Buzsaw
02-11-2011 11:08 AM
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Re: Evidence Or Not?
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: Buz, in Message 41 did you or did you not say:
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No golden calf was found that I'm aware of. What was found were these inscrptions at an alter site at the foot of Mt. Jabal el Lawz, the real Mt Sinai where it should be, Midian in Arabia. These inscriptions depict the golden calf.
Thank you, Jar. I stand corrected. I was careless when I posted this and/or perhaps in too much of a hurry. I never regarded that as an alter. I should have said rock. Do you still claim that the inscription depict a calf?
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Message 435 of 657 (604333)
02-11-2011 11:35 AM
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the humor in the image claims.
The rock claimed to be the altar of the Golden Calf depicts some classic primitive hunting and fertility pictoglyphs. It shows men with an exagerated phallus men with bows and a phallus, wolves, native species of antelope and goats, camels, dogs. They are very crudely drawn.
Now in the Exodus myth the people create a "golden calf" to worship. Now smelting gold and molding it into a calf replica requires a knowledge of several technological areas as well as artistic abilities. Yet when we look at the pictoglyphs in the images above, and compare them to what was being done in Egypt at the same periods, you really have to wonder. Does the image below from wikipedia look like the ones above?
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Message 446 of 657 (607644)
03-05-2011 4:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 445 by Buzsaw
03-05-2011 3:55 PM
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Re: Wheel Forms
Buzsaw writes: ramoss writes: So, you have some round coral clusters..that you are projecting as being 'wheels'. What you can not show is those mounds that are round are actually wheels.. You need something more than 'Oh gosh, that looks like a chariot wheel, therefore the exodus happened and god exists'. You're resorting to (as others have attempted) to divide and conquer, discounting the aggregate line-up of supportive evidence. I suggest that you read or reread about that in the thread, before arriving at an objective conclusion. What supportive evidence, your long list of unsupported assertions? Edited by jar, : appalin spallin
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Message 457 of 657 (607756)
03-06-2011 4:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 452 by Buzsaw
03-06-2011 1:41 PM
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Re: Summarizing The Evidence
Looking at Message 175 I see NO sign of you presenting evidence.
Buz writes: Duck 1. The Biblical record of the Exodus said that when they reached the sea they were entrapped with the pursuing Egyptians pursuing via the only route in, implying a wadi in a narrow passage through rugged terrain. An assertion that is not supported by any evidence. Do you know what evidence is Buz? Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 2. While at the sea shore there needed to be a large enough beach to accommodate a large number of people and animals. Nuweiba beach and it's surrounding terrain fits the ticket. Again, an irrelevant assertion unsupported by evidence. You have shown no evidence of why Nuwebia beach is any better than any of literally hundreds of other far more likely locations. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 3. The alleged crossing was the most shallow part of the sea where they were entrapped. Another totally unsupported assertion. Where in the story does it say the crossing was at the most shallow part of any sea? Remember, evidence Buz, not your fantasy or imagination. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 4. Photographed forms in the shapes of wheels and axles off the beach on the sea bottom. Again, that is not evidence that they ARE chariot wheels. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 5. A split rock where water flowed from meeting the description of the record. You showed a photo of a very common geological formation, a split rock, but NO evidence of water flow. You simply assert there was water flow in spite of the fact that the rocks in the asserted stream bed do not show any signs of water erosion. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 6. The record says they were in the land of Midian after the crossing... Nonsense. Another unsupported assertion. In addition, your very own source pointed out that the Midians territory extended in the Sinai Peninsula on both sides of the Gulf of Aqaba. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 7 ..where Mt Sinai was according to the record. As would a mountain on the Sinai Peninsula. More unsupported assertion there Buz. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 8. The top of the mountain was miraculously burnt by an act of God. Acclaimed Mt Sinai has a blackened top. Again, so you claim. But you presented no evidence to support that position even though several others presented other explanations that certainly would explain a black topped mountain in the area. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 9. Moses encounters the father of his wives in the land of Midian, according to the record. And you presented no evidence to support that. In addition, as pointed out above, almost anywhere on the Sinai Peninsula would be in Midian. That also adds NO support to the Exodus ever happening and so was just another attempt to palm the pea. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 10. A blacked top mountain acclaimed by explorers not to be volcanic, meeting the location of the record. Again, nonsense Buz. See Dead Duck 8 above. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 11. Rock inscriptions of bulls horses or cows indicative to occupation at some time by people at the base of the mountain. We been over the images Buz. They are pretty common pictoglyphs. In addition, no evidence has been presented to show that they are even in the area. Where is the evidence?
Buz writes: Duck 12. A large plain at the foot of the mountain suitable for a sojourn for the large assembly and where they worshipped the golden calf while Moses was on the mountain receiving the commandment stones. etc. Again, you have NOT provided any evidence that such a plain was occupied or any reason that flat spot is any different than any other such place. Where is the evidence? Now you claimed that you presented evidence in Message 175 and so I have patiently addressed each point you raised there. You provided no evidence in support of any one of your so called ducks and in fact each and every one of the ducks is simply an assertion. Edited by jar, : appalin spallin Edited by jar, : and addrosious grammr
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Message 459 of 657 (607768)
03-06-2011 6:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 458 by Buzsaw
03-06-2011 6:25 PM
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Re: Summarizing The Evidence
Buzsaw writes: We've gone over this same-ole, Jar. I'm not going to re-hash it all over, especially knowing that nothing will satisfy you people who have a phobia of anything supportive to the supernatural. . The only reason I brought it forward is to show what evidence I cited. You presented NO evidence Buz. Do you even know what evidence is? You just made assertions. Show us ONE piece of evidence that was in Message 175.
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