Abortion questions...?

No, because that is not what the word means:Pro-life Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

If I ask by which definition, will you get a dictionnary ? Implied meaning is relative to each. You can't start taking it into account especially when using a word in a sense that refers to a large group of people. I can refer to you as pro-choice if you like. But when I want to refer to the group of people who are in favor of the legalization of abortion, I can use pro-abortion ans it shouldn't matter to you.

Well your quote seems to be saying that the weighted terms in this debate are actually ''pro-choice'' and ''pro-life'' .... not pro-abortion.I would be just as offended to be called anti-choice as you would be to be called ''anti-life'' I guess.Edited by slevesque, : No reason given.

In quebec ? No but I think I know where you are going with this. Read my previous reply to CS if you want to know how I view the criminalization of abortion.

Then in that case you are in fault, since I am the one who used the word in this discussion, with the implied meaning of the official definition of the word. I see the difference, but it is a non-sequitur. I used the word implying it's normal definition, and you misenterpreted it by thinking I was using it meaning something else.

I think in the best of worlds, abortion should be illegal since I think it is killing a human being. But, I do realize that in practice, this wouldn't be a smart move, because socially we do not see it as a morally wrong thing.The culture change is much more important then the law change. Only when the culture has changed can we then change the law.

Because if it is a human being, then it is fundamentally wrong and the law should reflect that.

Depends on the situation, if the intention was self-defense (therefore, a genuine accident), then no. But if the intention was to kill, then yes.I certainly don't hope your trying to make it seem like I'm painting all this in black and white. What I'm saying is that if a foetus is a human being, then it is wrong to kill it.Edited by slevesque, : No reason given.

Are you saying that because I used the word ''foetus'', which only applies from the 11th week ?If so, then I'll say that this is very poor logic. It doesn't follow that I am saying anything prior to the 11th week isn't also a human being.It's the classic fallacy, if A implies B, then if not A, then not B.

But I did answer, I said if the intention is to protect yourself, then yes. If the intention was to kill the other, then no.It's the difference between, while being attacked, between accidentally pushing someone in front of a speedign car or purposefully doing so.

Yes. Of course, if there should be some way to save the foetus and the mother, this should be done. Define 'cruel', define 'unusual'. And give a concrete example.

No not at all ...An ectopic pregancy will kill the mother if nothing is done. However, in some cases c-section plus incubation can save the foetus. In those cases, you should save it instead of just killing it with an abortion procedure. No, she would not have to live her life raising the child.In any case, a child is never a ''punishment''.

Every child should be given a chance to live, even if the starting situation isn't ideal. Being raised in an orphanage, or a foster home, doesn't mean he will go in prison ....

When I say foetus, I mean foetus. And if I say ''the foetus is a human being'', it does not mean I do or do not think the zygote is or is not a human being.In any case, my position on this was discussed earlier in the discussion, since I said that I would put the line at the 100th cell division, when they start to specialize into the various types of cells needed.

Of course, we are talking about the society of the future, the one we would like to build. And I would have a free-health care system. Monetary reasons should never be the reason a human life isn't saved. Foster family. Orphanage. I think there are a couple alternatives.Of course, as I said, none of them are ideal situations, but I think that if we really wanted to, a lot of progress could be made into this.