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Jason777
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Message 105 of 116 (593289)
11-25-2010 7:45 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Dr Adequate
05-19-2009 2:43 AM


Re: I call bullshit
quote:
This, again, Morton mentions in his open letter to Austin and Humphreys:
Austin and Humphreys also ignore the existence of bedded salt deposits in the middle of the sedimentary column and its implications for the evaporative removal of salt from the sea. [...] Where in your discussion here do you include the Mediterranean salts, the Zechstein salt of Germany, the Louann Salt of the Gulf of Mexico, the Osprey Salt of Offshore Canada, or the Salina salt of New York? All of these are bedded in the middle of the geologic column and represent huge episodic removals of salt from the oceans by evaporation.
  —Dr. Adequate
They ignore it because it is irrelevant. Where does the salt come from to start with? From the rocks themselves. So, the rate of evaporation would match the rate that more salt is being redeposited back into the oceans. They shouldn't be expected to make the obvious a point should they?
Secondly, trace fossils need to be verified in these evaporates to confirm them as such. (Plankton,Diatoms,etc.)
Thanks.
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Jason777
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Message 109 of 116 (593357)
11-26-2010 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Percy
11-26-2010 10:05 AM


Re: I call bullshit
Hi Percy, nice to hear from you again.
quote:
You say the rates of addition and removal of salt match, right?
If they match, then the amount of salt in the oceans does not change over time, right?
Therefore the amount of salt in the oceans cannot be a measure of the age of the oceans, right?
  —Percy
No. I'm stating the fact that when inland seas evaporate, the water condensates into rain which only increases the rate of sodium being redeposited back into the oceans. The average rate is ~457 tons annually, if evaporation from inland seas increases the precipitation rate, then it would also increase the redeposition rate. Meaning, the oceans will still increase at an average rate regardless.
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Bodies of water shrinking and eventually disappearing due to evaporation become so salty that only halophiles (organisms that require salty water) can survive. Fossil halophiles are of course found in salt deposits, see for example Origins of halophilic microorganisms in ancient salt deposits.
Diatoms and other marine macrofossils don't just evaporate with the water; they should leave marine signatures verifying them as ancient oceans. Many salt deposits are simply that and have never been dissolved into the ocean to start with.
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