Dawn Bertot writes:
jar writes:
What people are doing at some other time is irrelevant to YOUR claim.
A response of this nature makes it clear you have no indication of being objective, actually responding to my argument or answering questions, all of which are a part of debate
Of course what the vast majority of the people are doing and how and with what they are conducting thier behavior, is the very issue and has everything to do with my claim
The bible was nearly the sole rule, people attended churches in droves, churches were everywhere and people practiced the tenets of Christianity in that time period, even if they did not get everything perfect.
unless you respond to arguments and questions, I cannot take you serious as an opponent in a debate
Dawn Bertot
Let me try to remind you of what is being discussed.
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What people are doing at some other time is irrelevant to YOUR claim.
Just in case you missed it, here it is again.
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Dawn Bertot writes:
jar writes:
Are you saying that "Love your neighbor as yourself" is the biblical principle and that the 1800s, 1940s and 1950s are the period when that principle was held up as a rule of moral principles by the vast majority of Americans?
Yeeeees. Could you demonstrate why this was not a golden age of the Bible when the majority of the people held it to the highest standard and used it as the sole guide in morals
Dawn Bertot
Well we can look and see if the people of the United States did actually use the principle "Love your neighbor as yourself" as their sole guide in morals.
The 1800 would be the period when the US, after signing a Treaty with the Kingdom of Hawaii invaded it and over threw the monarch. It would be the period of the Spanish American War when we invaded and took Puerto Rico. It would be when the US invaded Mexico and forced them to accept a treaty that gave the US what is now Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, California, Utah and parts of Colorado. It would be the period of the Indian Wars where the US not only took land from the Native Americans by force but also desecrated their Holy Places (which we continue to do today) but also outlawed and suppressed their religions and cultural practices.
Do those sound like the acts of a people driven by the biblical principle "Love thy neighbor as thy self?"
Remember "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." ?
The claim made by you (and I asked several times just to make sure we were addressing the same issue and you confirmed that it was the issue) was that the 1800s in the Us were a Golden Age of Christianity driven by the biblical principle "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and that they used that as the sole guide in morals.
I replied by pointing to the actual evidence that is available.
You then asked about other times, for example when the US invaded Grenada. Sorry Charlie, but that was not during the 1800s which is the period in question in your claim.
You then tried making assertions for which there was no evidence and then claims that have nothing to do with your claim.
Frankly, I really don't much care whether you take me seriously or not, the arguments I make will stand or fall based on the content, not the source.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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