Syamsu's Objection to Natural Selection...

That is just more representation of the same sort. You exclude situations where the population is not at carryingcapacity, where the carryingcapacity does not apply. Again, you are excluding many things by bringing in all the requirements to apply selection, you are invalidating all sorts of biology, like looking at individuals, or looking at populations which are not at carryingcapacity.It's even more curious that you do this because before you stated that fundamentally selection applies individually, and the standard formulation only includes variation because of the happenstance that there always is variation in a population. So it's not that you are suggesting these phenomena to be investigated separately from selection, you are in effect invalidating the investigation of the phenomena of populations which are not at carryingcapacity, and the relationship of individual organisms to the environment in terms of reproduction.regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

The point here is that you and Wounded King seek to include carryingcapicity in the standard formulation of Natural Selection, in stead of treating a population at carryingcapacity as a complicating factor to Natural Selection.regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

In trying to derive the formulation of Natural Selection from a computersimulation of NS, Wounded King began to talk about including carryingcapacity. It's just some posts before this. That Wounded King includes carryingcapacity is because that seems to be the only way to make comparing variants functional in a simulation.I don't see any serious challenge, it's either huff'n'puff about other's superior knowledge of biology, or huff'n'puff about my lack of knowledge of biology.regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

What am I projecting?Where Quetzal is wrong is to include things like carryingcapacity in the standardformulation of Natural Selection, because that would exclude situations where populations are not at carryingcapacity from the scope of the theory of Natural Selection.I've answered that post of Wounded King but since I can't find the comparison of variants, or lack of comparison in the code, it's still not clear.regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu